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That sucks but still think there’s a good chance we’ll use them both at the trade deadline

The roster stands at 15 standard contracts and 1 two-way contract (Saben), so they'd have to make room for anyone they trade for. (I'm guessing Wainright would be on the bubble)

Ya only 14 guaranteed contracts…I’ll be surprised if Ish is on the team all year.

Sucks seeing Payne go. He was a fun player when healthy and a great comeback story when he signed with us in the bubble. Just couldn't stay healthy and was up and down coming off the bench. Weird how Vogel kept talking him up only to see us trade him. Not sure I completely trust Goodwin as a main backup ballhandler but we'll see if we add anyone else. In the meantime, we know Book, KD and Beal will be the primary ballhandlers.

We'll see what Bol brings.

PF Kevin Durant/Bol Bol/Ish Wainright/Toumani Camara
SF Keita Bates-Diop/Josh Okogie/Yuta Watanabe
C Deandre Ayton/Drew Eubanks/Chimzie Metu
SG Bradley Beal/Eric Gordon/Damion Lee
PG Devin Brooker/Jordan Goodwin/Saben Lee [2W]

Feels like they are still cooking something.

Hmm. Suns must really like Goodwin. I'm surprised they cast aside Payne so eagerly when we don't have a lot of PGs on the roster. I hope Goodwin is ready for major minutes.

Ayton for Turner and McConnell makes a lot of sense

Whirlwind Offseason -

Back - Deandre Ayton, Devin Brooker, Kevin Durant, Damion Lee, Saben Lee, Josh Okogie, Ish Wainright
In - Coach Frank Vogel, Keita Bates-Dio, Bradley Beal, Bol Bol, Toumani Camara, Drew Eubanks, Jordan Goodwin, Eric Gordon, Chimzie Metu, Yuta Watanabe
Out - Coach Monty Williams, Darius Bazley, Bismack Biyombo, Torrey Craig, Jock Landale, Chris Paul, Cameron Payne, Terence Ross, Landry Shamet, T.J. Warren
New CEO & Head Coach
New television contract with over-the-air broadcasts (with a new broadcasting team)
New uniforms

Split T wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:35 am

Ayton for Turner and McConnell makes a lot of sense

Too much sense.

Also for those who think we’re not trading Ayton because Vogel keeps talking him up…

Lol. Completely different scenario. In fact, it makes it even more definite they aren’t trading DA. They’ve already traded away two point guards he liked—Paul and Payne.

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:57 am

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:07 pm

Sunsfanatic76 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:16 pm

This makes me feel like we are trying to trade Payne to a team that will take his whole salary and maybe gives us a couple 2nd round picks back.

Maybe Spurs? Not sure which teams still have cap space right now

Use Bol Bol to fill his roster spot and try to trade our TPE with our newly acquired 2nd round picks.

I wasn’t far off.

Once Gambo was hyping Goodwin as the main back up pg, it felt like they were gonna trade Payne away for salary dump.

I beat you to it, though

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:08 pm

I think Payne will be traded just for draft capital and salary savings, and we'll use the open roster spot on Bol Bol.

I don’t understand your logic there, but we’ll see. Not saying it means they will trade him, but I definitely don’t subscribe to the idea that they won’t.

This is a terrible trade that will likely end up hurting us. Reminds me too much of Sarver—trying to save money around the edges. Gambo’s excuse is not good enough—if we have injuries, we’re going to need someone like him. And obviously we could have easily opened up the spot for Bol by waiving Ish.

Terrible trade is a stretch…Payne hasn’t been very good for the last couple years. It was definitely trying to save money, but his skill set isn’t as important anymore. It seems they like Goodwin better…and I still don’t think they are done, so we’ll see who else is on the roster come training camp. Can’t evaluate individual moves in a vacuum.

Good trade. Give Cam a chance to earn another contract.