Game Day: Pelicans (21-34) @ Suns (17-38), Mon 2/13/17

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How did Tucker miss that last attempt? The first two were well guarded, but the last one he was wide open. He just rushed it and it clanked.

Oh well. Gimme some pinga pang PANG balls!!

Bledsoe continues his streak of strong games with 37 points on 11-22 shooting. 5 assists, 5 TO. Not a pass-first PG. Tucker with 16 big rebounds. Booker with 21 points.

Warren with *zero* points in 26 minutes. Something is seriously wrong with this guy. WTF.

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Shabazz wrote:What's with Chriss' hands. Are they small? Just bad? He has a really hard time finishing a lot of dunks, seems super easy to strip of the ball and occasionally has a tough time just catching it.
Bad eyes. He jumps so high that he can't see the rim.

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EDC wrote:That floater by Knight was way off. He has to be praying he is traded so he can just start over somewhere else.
I truly believe Knight will be out of the league in no longer than 5 years. He has 3 years left on his current contract. He'll get picked up on a 1 year deal by someone after that and then maybe another partial guarantee the following year to which he'll get cut. He's the new Marcus Banks. I agree with whoever mentioned that he's been in the league long enough and if he's not showing anything now he never will.

Ulis goes for 12 and 6 last game and then gets a DNP but Knight plays. Knight probably doesn't get moved at the deadline but he's got to sit after that. There's no more excuses left.

Also not happy Williams sat again also. I can't have Len and Chandler here after the deadline. It's stupid. But I know they won't trade Chandler.

If these rotations are the same after the trade deadline I may light myself on fire. I've had it with this shit.
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That was an incredibly frustrating last possession. Well, 4 possessions, right PJ?

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Anything involving PJ in an offensive possession is incredibly frustrating.
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djy2j wrote:If these rotations are the same after the trade deadline I may light myself on fire. I've had it with this shit.
I wouldn't expect anything to change. We are 2-10 over the last 12 and nothing has. Rotations and minutes are the same. Results are the same.
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Well, at least we have an intelligent and experienced coach who is clearly working hard out on the sidelines during the game and teaching these guys how to play the game the right way.

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carey wrote:
djy2j wrote:If these rotations are the same after the trade deadline I may light myself on fire. I've had it with this s***.
I wouldn't expect anything to change.
Who knows? It worked to get rid of Ben Ali, it might work on Sarver too. I think it's worth a try, as long as I'm not the one on fire.

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Shabazz wrote:What's with Chriss' hands. Are they small? Just bad? He has a really hard time finishing a lot of dunks, seems super easy to strip of the ball and occasionally has a tough time just catching it.
Lady hands to go with lady shoulders? :? Dunno.
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djy2j wrote:
EDC wrote:That floater by Knight was way off. He has to be praying he is traded so he can just start over somewhere else.
I truly believe Knight will be out of the league in no longer than 5 years. He has 3 years left on his current contract. He'll get picked up on a 1 year deal by someone after that and then maybe another partial guarantee the following year to which he'll get cut. He's the new Marcus Banks. I agree with whoever mentioned that he's been in the league long enough and if he's not showing anything now he never will.
Well, it's not like he's played like this his whole career. He averaged 18/5/5 and shot 40% from 3 in his last season in Milwaukee.

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Worst coaching records in Suns history -

Red Kerr - 31-89, .258
Earl Watson - 26-63, .292
Lindsey Hunter - 12-29, .293
John Wetzel - 28-54, .341
Butch van Breda Kolff - 3-4, .429
Frank Johnson - 63-71, .470
Jeff Hornacek - 101-112, .474
Jerry Colangelo - 59-60, .496

Kerr was the Suns' expansion coach. Hunter and Colangelo were interim coaches.
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But high 5's are waaaaay up!
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On a side note whats happening with Jim Boylen and the bulls?
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Five worst Suns seasons -

1968-69 - 16-66, .195 - Expansion season, Kerr fired during during next season
2015-16 - 23-59, .280 - Hornacek fired during season, interim coach Watson hired after season
2016-17 - 17-39, .304
2012-13 - 25-57, .305 - Gentry fired during season, interim coach Hunter replaced after season
1987-88 - 28-54, .341 - Wetzel fired after season
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In2ition wrote:
Nodack wrote:It makes sense. Bledsoe is our best player. We should trade him right away.
I am guessing you were being sarcastic. Wasn't Marbury our best player back in the day?
Guilty

We have had a lot of best players back in the day.

Remember the Penny Hardaway/Joe Johnson days? We spent that year fighting over which one should be starting/getting more minutes. Joe won out and then became so good we had to trade him. He just about put us over the hump until his face plant.

Tony Delk=Brandon Knight, both streaky scorers hated for being ball hogs.

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It became clear that Penny was never going to become Penny again, and Joe won out and kept getting a little better and better. Sarver screwed up when he couldn't give him $5 million more the summer before, acting like he has been doing NBA contract negotiations his whole life and knew when and when not to listen to his people he pays to do this stuff.

Yeah, both Delk and Knight are a bit of ball hogs, but Delk was a sg that shot and Knight is masquerading as a pg that just pounds the air out of the ball until he can get his shot off.
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Nodack wrote:
In2ition wrote:
Nodack wrote:It makes sense. Bledsoe is our best player. We should trade him right away.
I am guessing you were being sarcastic. Wasn't Marbury our best player back in the day?
Guilty

We have had a lot of best players back in the day.

Remember the Penny Hardaway/Joe Johnson days? We spent that year fighting over which one should be starting/getting more minutes. Joe won out and then became so good we had to trade him. He just about put us over the hump until his face plant.

Tony Delk=Brandon Knight, both streaky scorers hated for being ball hogs.
Is that sarcasm too? Because he didn't have to trade him. We chose to not extend him, then decided he was too expensive to match, so we signed and traded him to get something for him.

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To tell you the truth I'm not sure why I brought up the JJ and Penny thing. Everybody liked Joe Johnson. He wanted max money as I recall and we already had enough max guys and couldn't afford him. He kind of turned into a max player so I have trouble placing any fault on anybody except Joe for getting too good. That damn face plant stopped a championship. Amare and Diaw leaving the bench during Horry's hockey check on Nash stopped a championship.

I do wonder what might have happened if we gave JJ the max and bit the bullet on salary cap? I wonder if Joe on the team longer would have pushed us over the top.

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I’ve been wondering why you brought it up for months! Thank God you finally got back to us :)

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I wish we hadn't let JJ go. But if he had stayed, we probably would not have signed my all-time second favorite Sun (behind Nash), Raja Bell.

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