Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown

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JCSunsfan wrote:I honestly believe that Kyrie will be on the Cleveland roster at the beginning of the season, just like Keef was still on our roster after asking for a trade.
I think so too.
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Split T wrote:
In2ition wrote:
Split T wrote: I'm still happy to take him for bled/Warren/Miami 1st, but that's my final offer.
Honestly, that's a great offer, IMO. It's more than fair value, but in their eyes it's not enough. I really could see Warren blow up this year.
I think so too, although I can see why Cleveland might not be too excited by him. If they are trying to build around LeBron, they may look at Warren and say, he doesn't really defend or shoot and isn't a great fit next to LeBron. If they are expecting LeBron to leave, Warren isn't exactly a rising star. Plus, they'd have to pay him next summer.

Maybe Bled to Cleveland, Warren and the Miami 1st to a third team and the third team sends a piece that fits better with LeBron.

Who says no:

Phoenix out: Bled, Warren, Miami 1st
Phoenix in: Kyrie

Cleveland in: Bled, Melo
Cleveland out: Kyrie, Frye

NY out: Melo
NY in: Warren, Frye, Miami 1st

Then Cleveland trades Love and Shumpert to Houston for Gordon and Anderson.

Bledsoe/Gordon/LeBron/Melo/Thompson

Houston would run

Paul/Harden/Ariza/Love/Capela

NY would run

Ntilikina/Hardaway/Warren/Porzingis/Hernangomez

And we'd run

Kyrie/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Chandler
I would say no. I think a perfect fit vet, a good player still on a rookie contract, and a pick in the 15-20 range is too much for a guy that says he doesn't want to play for you, doesn't fit well with the #1 option on the team, and doesn't improve your team where you are lacking the most. Even if he is a very effective 1-1 scorer.

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Indy wrote:
Split T wrote:
In2ition wrote:
Split T wrote: I'm still happy to take him for bled/Warren/Miami 1st, but that's my final offer.
Honestly, that's a great offer, IMO. It's more than fair value, but in their eyes it's not enough. I really could see Warren blow up this year.
I think so too, although I can see why Cleveland might not be too excited by him. If they are trying to build around LeBron, they may look at Warren and say, he doesn't really defend or shoot and isn't a great fit next to LeBron. If they are expecting LeBron to leave, Warren isn't exactly a rising star. Plus, they'd have to pay him next summer.

Maybe Bled to Cleveland, Warren and the Miami 1st to a third team and the third team sends a piece that fits better with LeBron.

Who says no:

Phoenix out: Bled, Warren, Miami 1st
Phoenix in: Kyrie

Cleveland in: Bled, Melo
Cleveland out: Kyrie, Frye

NY out: Melo
NY in: Warren, Frye, Miami 1st

Then Cleveland trades Love and Shumpert to Houston for Gordon and Anderson.

Bledsoe/Gordon/LeBron/Melo/Thompson

Houston would run

Paul/Harden/Ariza/Love/Capela

NY would run

Ntilikina/Hardaway/Warren/Porzingis/Hernangomez

And we'd run

Kyrie/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Chandler
I would say no. I think a perfect fit vet, a good player still on a rookie contract, and a pick in the 15-20 range is too much for a guy that says he doesn't want to play for you, doesn't fit well with the #1 option on the team, and doesn't improve your team where you are lacking the most. Even if he is a very effective 1-1 scorer.
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Kyrie Irving must have been really confused by why it got so dark today.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Kyrie Irving must have been really confused by why it got so dark today.
I think there is still a way in their heads to have eclipses happen. Probably all think it is a man-made trick, or that the moon is a flat disc too and it went between the sun and flat earth.

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Shouldn't the Sun and the Moon also be discs? :)

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EDC wrote:Shouldn't the Sun and the Moon also be discs? :)
yes, following that logic.
and from the one angle i can view them, my balls should be discs too

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EDC wrote:Shouldn't the Sun and the Moon also be discs? :)
According to Lon Babby they should be Steve Nash.
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1tinsoldier wrote:
EDC wrote:Shouldn't the Sun and the Moon also be discs? :)
yes, following that logic.
and from the one angle i can view them, my balls should be discs too
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/900115326175784961

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Superbone wrote:

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/900115326175784961

Eventually someone cracks. Interesting, does this mean that Tatum is on his way out too, along with draft picks?
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In2ition wrote:Eventually someone cracks. Interesting, does this mean that Tatum is on his way out too, along with draft picks?
That's what I'm wondering. Either Tatum or Brown.
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/900121788876824576

That would be a killing for the Celtics. Swap tiny Thomas for Kyrie?
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Superbone wrote:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/900121788876824576

That would be a killing for the Celtics. Swap tiny Thomas for Kyrie?
Depending on what those picks are.
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The Bobster wrote:
Superbone wrote:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/900121788876824576

That would be a killing for the Celtics. Swap tiny Thomas for Kyrie?
Depending on what those picks are.
I really like this move for Boston. That will be a solid team next year.

Cleveland must really be in a tough spot if they are willing to trade one of their core players to what appears to be their toughest competition in the east.

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Like this trade for the Cavs. No way we could of matched getting the unprotected Nets Pick and IT. It's a perfect mix for Cleveland, they get the future asset while getting a guy in IT who isn't a HUGE drop off from Kyrie. I actually don't are about the rest of the deal, Dealing Kyrie for that Nets pick is a Win for Cleveland IMO.
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Great haul for Cleveland. We made the right move not trying to match that.

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Here's the final haul:

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/900135849819590656


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I would have thought they would have gotten more from Boston, since they are dealing with a Conference rival. I was hoping that the Suns could have worked out a good deal for Irving, but I'm not upset about it. I didn't want to lose Jackson, Warren or any of the picks.
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