Suns News: Week 8 12/4-12/10

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O_Gardino wrote:
In2ition wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_ ... phia-76ers

ESPN laid out their new Mock Draft. They have the Suns taking Bagley #2 and Trevon Duval #13.

I'm all for Bagley, but I'm worried that Duval has a little of the same problems that plague Ulis in that he really struggles to shoot. Although, Duval is much taller and more athletic. He is a pretty good passer right now though and does a great job running the Duke team.
I can only dream about moving up the lottery to get the #2 pick.
I can only dream about reading that column.

Or I suppose I could pay for an Insider subscription... but I'll settle for dreaming.

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Split T wrote:
jonh wrote:Good article:

https://hoopshabit.com/2017/12/05/phoen ... hise-star/
Devin Booker is currently the 2nd guard ever to average 23+ points on a .570+ TS% at 21-years-old or younger. Other one? Michael Jordan.
We absolutely need to get Booker his pippen. I think it needs to happen within the next year.

Some quick thoughts:

Warren - nice player, will never be great if he can't shoot. Needs to spend the entire summer shooting 3's or I don't think him and Jackson can be on the same team. Warren also needs to learn how to pass. I've seen a few stats that basically show him as one of the worst playmakers in the NBA. He runs that ft line pick and roll with Chandler a few times a game and Chandler is always open for the lob and I can't remember the last time Warren made that pass.

Jackson, Chriss and Bender - Need to figure out what these guys are. All have actually shown more defensively this year than offensively. We need to play them and figure out how they fit alongside Booker.

Free agent class next year is pretty weak. James, Cousins, and George aren't coming here. That leaves DeAndre (please no) IT(would be funny) and guys like Will Barton, who I actually love, but he's a SG and hard to play him and Booker together defensively. Although Barton may be able to defend the 1.

What's our next move? How do we build this team around Booker?
Warren is a great 3rd player or rotation player. If he is that guy, he can be traded for one. The most likely player in the league to play the Pippen role is Jackson. its there. He has the all around game, except shooting, at this point.

We need a pg. We are not running the triangle.

Needs to be these things in this order. 1. Facilitator. 2. Defender. 3. Shooter. 4. Driver.
You just described Ntilikina.
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O_Gardino wrote:
JCSunsfan wrote: Needs to be these things in this order. 1. Facilitator. 2. Defender. 3. Shooter. 4. Driver.
You just described Ntilikina.
Ehh, I guess 2 out of 4 ain't bad.

For the record, I'm busting your balls. I'd love to have Ntilikina on this team.
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
JCSunsfan wrote: Needs to be these things in this order. 1. Facilitator. 2. Defender. 3. Shooter. 4. Driver.
You just described Ntilikina.
Ehh, I guess 2 out of 4 ain't bad.

For the record, I'm busting your balls. I'd love to have Ntilikina on this team.
I think Nickiel Alexander-Walker is a similar style player to keep an eye on this year. He's probably more like 1. Shooter 2. Defender 3. Facilitator 4. Driver

Bruce Brown is interesting too but I don't know if he's a full time PG in the NBA.

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Split T wrote:
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
JCSunsfan wrote: Needs to be these things in this order. 1. Facilitator. 2. Defender. 3. Shooter. 4. Driver.
You just described Ntilikina.
Ehh, I guess 2 out of 4 ain't bad.

For the record, I'm busting your balls. I'd love to have Ntilikina on this team.
I think Nickiel Alexander-Walker is a similar style player to keep an eye on this year. He's probably more like 1. Shooter 2. Defender 3. Facilitator 4. Driver

Bruce Brown is interesting too but I don't know if he's a full time PG in the NBA.
I don't know anything about Bruce Brown but everytime I see his name, I see Bruce Bowen and that bugs me!
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Haha, he's a 6'5 guard with length. Good defender, will be able to guard 1-3. He's a good shooter and has some playmaking chops, but probably moreso in a secondary role. Averaging 12/8/5 and shooting 40% from 3 early on for Miami this year.

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Thanks for the scouting report, Split!
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Superbone wrote:
Split T wrote:
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
JCSunsfan wrote: Needs to be these things in this order. 1. Facilitator. 2. Defender. 3. Shooter. 4. Driver.
You just described Ntilikina.
Ehh, I guess 2 out of 4 ain't bad.

For the record, I'm busting your balls. I'd love to have Ntilikina on this team.
I think Nickiel Alexander-Walker is a similar style player to keep an eye on this year. He's probably more like 1. Shooter 2. Defender 3. Facilitator 4. Driver

Bruce Brown is interesting too but I don't know if he's a full time PG in the NBA.
I don't know anything about Bruce Brown but everytime I see his name, I see Bruce Bowen and that bugs me!
Same. I hate him for no good reason.
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I almost missed it, but today is the final day to keep Mike James with the team on his current contract. We should see at least one roster move today.
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Fluff piece, but I'll take any Suns related reading:


Triano had big impact on my game: Raptors' DeRozan
Jay Triano was back at the Air Canada Centre, an occasion for DeMar DeRozan to look back at his early days as a Raptor when Triano helped nurture the face of Toronto basketball.

To hear DeRozan tell it, Triano had a profound influence, a calming presence who allowed the Raptors star to develop by entrusting him and making him feel comfortable on the floor.

http://torontosun.com/sports/basketball ... rs-derozan
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O_Gardino wrote:Fluff piece, but I'll take any Suns related reading:


Triano had big impact on my game: Raptors' DeRozan
Jay Triano was back at the Air Canada Centre, an occasion for DeMar DeRozan to look back at his early days as a Raptor when Triano helped nurture the face of Toronto basketball.

To hear DeRozan tell it, Triano had a profound influence, a calming presence who allowed the Raptors star to develop by entrusting him and making him feel comfortable on the floor.

http://torontosun.com/sports/basketball ... rs-derozan
Thanks. I enjoyed The Sun girls as well. :)
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O_Gardino wrote:I almost missed it, but today is the final day to keep Mike James with the team on his current contract. We should see at least one roster move today.

Would love to see him cut and someone else brought in

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specialsauce wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:I almost missed it, but today is the final day to keep Mike James with the team on his current contract. We should see at least one roster move today.

Would love to see him cut and someone else brought in

https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/938505357168599040

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bajanguy008 wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:I almost missed it, but today is the final day to keep Mike James with the team on his current contract. We should see at least one roster move today.

Would love to see him cut and someone else brought in

https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/938505357168599040

oh, boy. If Book is out long enough to open a roster spot, it's going to be an ugly season.
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Gotta look at the positives. It would be great for our draft pick.
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O_Gardino wrote:
bajanguy008 wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:I almost missed it, but today is the final day to keep Mike James with the team on his current contract. We should see at least one roster move today.

Would love to see him cut and someone else brought in

https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/938505357168599040

oh, boy. If Book is out long enough to open a roster spot, it's going to be an ugly season.
Booker injury has nothing to do with James roster spot. It's not like we are cutting Booker. We would have to cut someone regardless.
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Potential injured player exemption.
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/938529694122692613


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O_Gardino wrote:Potential injured player exemption.
Isn't that for cap space not roster spots? Or we would have one for Knight.
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Wally_West wrote:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/938529694122692613

Incoming 10-game losing streak?
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