2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)

[Superbone]

They haven't even won 2 in a row.

Yet. Give it a couple weeks. It's obviously coming.

Maybe! They sure hope so.

It's very uncharacteristic of you to be upset about something that hasn't happened yet and may not happen at all. Why choose to be mad about this instead of your normal "just enjoy the ride" approach? Is it just the fun of hating the villain? Not calling you out, I'm just curious what the juice is for you.

I've been upset about it ever since Durant joined the Warriors and I've complained the whole way kicking and screaming. You haven't been paying attention. It's ruining the competition of the NBA. Luckily for us, we're not going to be competing for real for a couple years anyway.

[Cap]

I hate Durant and the Warriors so much. They're playing with a stacked deck the likes of which have never been seen before. (Yeah, I'm not talking about the Dream Team but just a regular season NBA team.) I hate the new balance of (lack thereof) power. It just makes the NBA a joke. Maybe the NBA will figure it out after they win 5+ championships in a row.

I don’t understand why the NBA won’t bring me in and give me dictatorial authority to fix these issues.

[Superbone]

I hate Durant and the Warriors so much. They're playing with a stacked deck the likes of which have never been seen before. (Yeah, I'm not talking about the Dream Team but just a regular season NBA team.) I hate the new balance of (lack thereof) power. It just makes the NBA a joke. Maybe the NBA will figure it out after they win 5+ championships in a row.

I don’t understand why the NBA won’t bring me in and give me dictatorial authority to fix these issues.

Remember when Stern disallowed Chris Paul to the Lakers?

[Split T]

On the open market, Klay can sign with another team for a maximum of $139 million over four years. He is reportedly considering a four-year, $92 million extension, which would result in him leaving roughly $47 million on the table and saving the Warriors significant money.

How will you guys feel if Klay takes his rumored pay cut to stay in the Bay?

Honestly I think it's nearly as bad as Durant joining them. I have no problem if Klay stays, it's where he's played his whole career and he loves it there, but he's gotta take his money. How do you leave 47 million on the table? Make GS pay you.

[Cap]

I hate Durant and the Warriors so much. They're playing with a stacked deck the likes of which have never been seen before. (Yeah, I'm not talking about the Dream Team but just a regular season NBA team.) I hate the new balance of (lack thereof) power. It just makes the NBA a joke. Maybe the NBA will figure it out after they win 5+ championships in a row.

I don’t understand why the NBA won’t bring me in and give me dictatorial authority to fix these issues.

Remember when Stern disallowed Chris Paul to the Lakers?

Not in his role as Commissioner, but in his role as manager of The Hornets. Or so he says. Seems kind of ridiculous to me that he was wearing both hats at once.

[Mori Chu]

I do root for the Warriors in the playoffs, but I totally agree that it's bad for the league that they got Durant. It ruins the competitive balance of the league. The past few seasons would have been MUCH more interesting with Durant in OKC with Westbrook, or maybe on some other squad like Washington or wherever. If they keep that team together, it will be bad for the whole 2010s decade of the NBA into the 2020s. When teams like Lebron-Cleveland and Harden-Paul-Houston can't compete, that is pretty messed up. I guess in a way it is good that the Suns are bad right now because there'd be no point to even trying to contend this year or next.

Another thing I wanted to mention about the game from the other night is that I didn't like how thuggish Draymond Green was being. Knocking guys over, pushing them down on screens, and just generally looking like he wanted to start a bar fight for the whole game. I don't like that kind of basketball. Reminded me of mid-90s Dennis Rodman. I think the refs should come down hard on that sort of behavior and toss a guy quickly if he's being like that.

[Cap]

I do root for the Warriors in the playoffs, but I totally agree that it's bad for the league that they got Durant. It ruins the competitive balance of the league. The past few seasons would have been MUCH more interesting with Durant in OKC with Westbrook, or maybe on some other squad like Washington or wherever. If they keep that team together, it will be bad for the whole 2010s decade of the NBA into the 2020s. When teams like Lebron-Cleveland and Harden-Paul-Houston can't compete, that is pretty messed up. I guess in a way it is good that the Suns are bad right now because there'd be no point to even trying to contend this year or next.

Another thing I wanted to mention about the game from the other night is that I didn't like how thuggish Draymond Green was being. Knocking guys over, pushing them down on screens, and just generally looking like he wanted to start a bar fight for the whole game. I don't like that kind of basketball. Reminded me of mid-90s Dennis Rodman. I think the refs should come down hard on that sort of behavior and toss a guy quickly if he's being like that.

Green should have been tossed in the first two minutes.

[Superbone]

I do root for the Warriors in the playoffs, but I totally agree that it's bad for the league that they got Durant. It ruins the competitive balance of the league. The past few seasons would have been MUCH more interesting with Durant in OKC with Westbrook, or maybe on some other squad like Washington or wherever. If they keep that team together, it will be bad for the whole 2010s decade of the NBA into the 2020s. When teams like Lebron-Cleveland and Harden-Paul-Houston can't compete, that is pretty messed up. I guess in a way it is good that the Suns are bad right now because there'd be no point to even trying to contend this year or next.

Another thing I wanted to mention about the game from the other night is that I didn't like how thuggish Draymond Green was being. Knocking guys over, pushing them down on screens, and just generally looking like he wanted to start a bar fight for the whole game. I don't like that kind of basketball. Reminded me of mid-90s Dennis Rodman. I think the refs should come down hard on that sort of behavior and toss a guy quickly if he's being like that.

Green should have been tossed in the first two minutes.

Yeah, they sure give him a lot of leeway in complaining to the refs after a foul or technical is called on him.

[Flagrant Fowl]

On the open market, Klay can sign with another team for a maximum of $139 million over four years. He is reportedly considering a four-year, $92 million extension, which would result in him leaving roughly $47 million on the table and saving the Warriors significant money.

How will you guys feel if Klay takes his rumored pay cut to stay in the Bay?

Honestly I think it's nearly as bad as Durant joining them. I have no problem if Klay stays, it's where he's played his whole career and he loves it there, but he's gotta take his money. How do you leave 47 million on the table? Make GS pay you.

Let'em live. It's basketball.

[Hermen]

If you have Morris guarding Thompson why not just sub him with Baynes?

[INFORMER]

On the open market, Klay can sign with another team for a maximum of $139 million over four years. He is reportedly considering a four-year, $92 million extension, which would result in him leaving roughly $47 million on the table and saving the Warriors significant money.

How will you guys feel if Klay takes his rumored pay cut to stay in the Bay?

Honestly I think it's nearly as bad as Durant joining them. I have no problem if Klay stays, it's where he's played his whole career and he loves it there, but he's gotta take his money. How do you leave 47 million on the table? Make GS pay you.

As if he is eligible for welfare if he "settles" for $92 million...

[Split T]

On the open market, Klay can sign with another team for a maximum of $139 million over four years. He is reportedly considering a four-year, $92 million extension, which would result in him leaving roughly $47 million on the table and saving the Warriors significant money.

How will you guys feel if Klay takes his rumored pay cut to stay in the Bay?

Honestly I think it's nearly as bad as Durant joining them. I have no problem if Klay stays, it's where he's played his whole career and he loves it there, but he's gotta take his money. How do you leave 47 million on the table? Make GS pay you.

As if he is eligible for welfare if he "settles" for $92 million...

Not my point. I'm not worried about Klay. The warriors ownership doesn't need a discount to keep this team together. They have the best collection of elite talent I've seen in my lifetime. They can pay and will pay to keep it together. They got lucky capwise with Durant and don't need to get lucky again.

[O_Gardino]

On the open market, Klay can sign with another team for a maximum of $139 million over four years. He is reportedly considering a four-year, $92 million extension, which would result in him leaving roughly $47 million on the table and saving the Warriors significant money.

How will you guys feel if Klay takes his rumored pay cut to stay in the Bay?

Honestly I think it's nearly as bad as Durant joining them. I have no problem if Klay stays, it's where he's played his whole career and he loves it there, but he's gotta take his money. How do you leave 47 million on the table? Make GS pay you.

As if he is eligible for welfare if he "settles" for $92 million...

Not my point. I'm not worried about Klay. The warriors ownership doesn't need a discount to keep this team together. They have the best collection of elite talent I've seen in my lifetime. They can pay and will pay to keep it together. They got lucky capwise with Durant and don't need to get lucky again.

It's not just luck. It's also that they built a team culture where players like coming to work. Klay could go somewhere else and be The Man, and maybe he will. On the Warriors he's not even in the top 3. Most teams lose guys like that no matter what contract they offer. Winning and treating your players right isn't luck.

[Split T]

Sure, but they got very lucky with the cap spike to get Durant and are lucky Klay is the kind of guy that values experience/culture over money. You said it yourself, most teams lose players like Klay, no matter the contract. They're lucky Klay is wired differently, doesn't want to be the man, and doesn't care about the 47 million he's leaving on the table.

[Mori Chu]

Sure, but they got very lucky with the cap spike to get Durant and are lucky Klay is the kind of guy that values experience/culture over money. You said it yourself, most teams lose players like Klay, no matter the contract. They're lucky Klay is wired differently, doesn't want to be the man, and doesn't care about the 47 million he's leaving on the table.

Klay hasn't left any money on any tables yet, has he? It's a bit presumptive to assume that he's going to take a cut-rate deal. If it happens, okay, but he very well could get the max and put them into the tax. Maybe the team wants to do that to show him appreciation. Maybe they can afford it with all the championships and money they'll be getting. Who knows? I guess my point is I'll believe a player took less money when I see it.

[Split T]

Fair enough. But it's been reported that he's willing. We'll see what happens when the time comes.

[carey]

Klay hasn't left any money on any tables yet, has he? It's a bit presumptive to assume that he's going to take a cut-rate deal. If it happens, okay, but he very well could get the max and put them into the tax. Maybe the team wants to do that to show him appreciation. Maybe they can afford it with all the championships and money they'll be getting. Who knows? I guess my point is I'll believe a player took less money when I see it.

They are already in the tax. By a lot. They paid $137M in salaries this year. They are scheduled to be paying the repeater tax by '19-'20 unless they start getting rid of guys.

[Split T]

Their tax bill alone will be pushing 200 million if they max out Klay and Dray

[BlaCkAdDa]

Their tax bill alone will be pushing 200 million if they max out Klay and Dray

So we get a share of that?

[In2ition]

Their tax bill alone will be pushing 200 million if they max out Klay and Dray

That's 3rd world team problems, not problems the champs care about. Quit projecting your money issues on them, NYK, Lakers or any high market teams that have shown no worries about money.