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Least: Warren develops a corner 3
Most: (tie) Ayton ROY & Booker All star
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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:32 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:56 pm
How good are we if:

Knight is BASE
Booker is AASW (Actual All Star in West)
Ayton is ROY
Jackson takes an Ingram like leap in year 2
Warren shows up with a corner 3
I mean, if all the good things happened, we'd be a playoff team. I personally don't think they all will, but I'm still rooting for all of those guys you named to have big seasons.

Here's a question about your post: Which of the items you listed is MOST and LEAST likely to happen?
That's a good question... In order of likeliness

1. Ayton wins ROY - He'll get opportunities and put up numbers
2. Booker AASW - I believe in him the most, but feel like he's kinda dependent on the team being good to get an all-star bid
3. Knight BASE - I think he's set up nicely, no pressure, just gotta be who he's already been in the past.
4. Jackson takes a leap - Ingram was really good, I think Jackson will make a leap, but his shot won't be ready yet
5. Warren develops a corner 3 - Seems the easiest, I just don't believe in his ability to do it

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My very uninformed take:

Warren shows up with a corner 3: It won’t be his forte, but it will be there, and just from the corner.
Knight is BASE: Coaching matters, and I think without expectations, playing off Booker-Ayton and with Igor in charge, he can regain form.
Ayton is ROY: Will be an uphill battle with Bagley even more positioned than Ayton to put up numbers and with Dallas featuring Doncic, wich also plays a more flashy position and style.
Jackson takes an Ingram like leap in year 2: Big drop in likeliness from the Ayton case, it would be last if not because the next item is...
Booker is AASW (Actual All Star in West): Almost impossible with how crowded the position is in the West, but if he enters the conversation for BASW, it would be enough for me, perhaps if the team is fighting for a playoff berth, some press include him on the snub list. I’m looking for Devin to take at least a mini leap, but the league is always behind recognizing it, it tends to go with established names.

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Probably fair about Booker. Truth is, he'd have to put up ridiculous numbers to get in if we're not winning a lot of games. If we surprise early, are near .500, and Booker can put up 25/5/5 with good shooting splits, he should be in.

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If he is leading the league in scoring, he will get on the team. And I think that is possible (or at least in top 3 by the end of December).

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Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:16 am
If he is leading the league in scoring, he will get on the team. And I think that is possible (or at least in top 3 by the end of December).
I'm with you here. I think 25/5/5 is conservative.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:27 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:16 am
If he is leading the league in scoring, he will get on the team. And I think that is possible (or at least in top 3 by the end of December).
I'm with you here. I think 25/5/5 is conservative.
Not sure he is going to be above 5 boards or assists, but I expect him to be +27ppg.

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Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:45 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:27 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:16 am
If he is leading the league in scoring, he will get on the team. And I think that is possible (or at least in top 3 by the end of December).
I'm with you here. I think 25/5/5 is conservative.
Not sure he is going to be above 5 boards or assists, but I expect him to be +27ppg.
He did have one of the highest rates of potential assists that weren't converted last year, because his teammates couldn't hit an open jumper, fumbled an easy dunk, and couldn't catch a lob pass.
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I don't think his rebounds will go up, but assists should. Better teammates, better offense, natural progression.

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In2ition wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:09 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:45 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:27 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:16 am
If he is leading the league in scoring, he will get on the team. And I think that is possible (or at least in top 3 by the end of December).
I'm with you here. I think 25/5/5 is conservative.
Not sure he is going to be above 5 boards or assists, but I expect him to be +27ppg.
He did have one of the highest rates of potential assists that weren't converted last year, because his teammates couldn't hit an open jumper, fumbled an easy dunk, and couldn't catch a lob pass.
Yep, but I think he will be playing less PG. I would really like to see him higher, just not sure he will get the chance.

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I think it really depends on how ready Ayton and company are. If there are a couple of legit scorers around him, he'll get more assists. If not, he'll get more points.

I feel like Booker and Ayton will average something like 45 / 15 / 7 combined.

Maybe I'm expecting too much of Ayton, but I don't think it's possible to expect too much of Booker on offense.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:32 pm
I think it really depends on how ready Ayton and company are. If there are a couple of legit scorers around him, he'll get more assists. If not, he'll get more points.

I feel like Booker and Ayton will average something like 45 / 15 / 7 combined.

Maybe I'm expecting too much of Ayton, but I don't think it's possible to expect too much of Booker on offense.
If we give him the minutes, Ayton should get 15/10 pretty easily. Not sure about assists for him, he's a pretty good passer, but I don't expect him to be put in a lot of playmaking situations. Can Booker put up 30/5/6? That's some peak Wade numbers.

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I am not sure how easy it will be for him to get those points, but I think he should be disappointed if he isn't in the top 10 for rebounders in the league, and #1 or 2 in rookie scoring.

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O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:27 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:16 am
If he is leading the league in scoring, he will get on the team. And I think that is possible (or at least in top 3 by the end of December).
I'm with you here. I think 25/5/5 is conservative.
It should be since he already did it last year.
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JeremyG wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:38 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:27 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:16 am
If he is leading the league in scoring, he will get on the team. And I think that is possible (or at least in top 3 by the end of December).
I'm with you here. I think 25/5/5 is conservative.
It should be since he already did it last year.
He didn't hit any of those, although he was close on PPG. He was 24.9, 4.7, and 4.5.

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Indy wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:36 am
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:38 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:27 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:16 am
If he is leading the league in scoring, he will get on the team. And I think that is possible (or at least in top 3 by the end of December).
I'm with you here. I think 25/5/5 is conservative.
It should be since he already did it last year.
He didn't hit any of those, although he was close on PPG. He was 24.9, 4.7, and 4.5.
Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept of rounding, Indy? ;)
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Plus, you're not looking for much improvement if all you want is an increase of 0.1 points, 0.3 assists, and 0.5 rebounds per game.
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Superbone wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:33 am
Plus, you're not looking for much improvement if all you want is an increase of 0.1 points, 0.3 assists, and 0.5 rebounds per game.
I am actually hoping his usage goes down, but his scoring goes up. I think his assists could go up if we play BK off the ball a lot, though. If he can get to 30/5/5 while keeping his % around 45/38/85, I would be ecstatic.

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Indy wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:40 am
Superbone wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:33 am
Plus, you're not looking for much improvement if all you want is an increase of 0.1 points, 0.3 assists, and 0.5 rebounds per game.
I am actually hoping his usage goes down, but his scoring goes up. I think his assists could go up if we play BK off the ball a lot, though. If he can get to 30/5/5 while keeping his % around 45/38/85, I would be ecstatic.
You and me both. That would be amazing.
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Superbone wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:28 am
Indy wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:40 am
Superbone wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:33 am
Plus, you're not looking for much improvement if all you want is an increase of 0.1 points, 0.3 assists, and 0.5 rebounds per game.
I am actually hoping his usage goes down, but his scoring goes up. I think his assists could go up if we play BK off the ball a lot, though. If he can get to 30/5/5 while keeping his % around 45/38/85, I would be ecstatic.
You and me both. That would be amazing.
The amazing thing is that I don't think it is unreasonable. It is within his grasp.

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