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Suns Trade Dudley; Acquire Richaun Holmes

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:11 am
by Xylus
Spoke too soon, Wormwood

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1020309767615418368


Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:14 am
by Split T
Weird... Not sure the point of that. We trying to create more space to sign someone?

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:17 am
by Split T
Maybe just not wanting to cut Reed or Harrison. This frees up a roster spot. Maybe Alan Williams or Tyler Ulis coming back

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:22 am
by ShelC
I actually like that move. When I saw Arthur was traded I thought that should've been the kind of guy we targeted.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:22 am
by Split T
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:22 am
I actually like that move. When I saw Arthur was traded I thought that should've been the kind of guy we targeted.
Tweet says we're just buying him out

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:29 am
by Xylus
So we're giving up a 2nd round draft pick to save a little money?

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:30 am
by The Bobster
Dudley certainly wasn't needed here and his "commitment" to conditioning was extremely disappointing.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:31 am
by Split T
Xylus wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:29 am
So we're giving up a 2nd round draft pick to save a little money?
Yep... Bordow says we've been working on a buyout with Dudley for a couple weeks. I think we've got 3-4 million in space now and a roster spot... Be interesting what we do. Vet PG seems most likely.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:34 am
by The Bobster
So now Chandler (35) and Ariza (32) are the only players on the roster over 27.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:39 am
by ShelC
Ugh, I thought Arthur could've helped. But I guess we have our PF in Ariza smh.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:43 am
by Split T
Gambo/Bordow reporting we are gauranteeing contract of Reed and plan to keep Harrison too.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:46 am
by The Bobster
PF - Ariza, Bender, Peters
SF - Jackson, Warren, King (2-way)
C- Ayton, Chriss, Chandler
SG - Booker, Bridges, Daniels, Reed
PG - Knight, Okobo, Harrison

Peters getting another 2-way contract would seem to be a possibility, although not a necessity with only 15 players (plus King) likely on the roster.

I can see signing a veteran point guard to a 1-year deal to share time with Knight, and re-signing Alan Williams as insurance at the end of the bench if he willing to return at a reduced salary.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:48 am
by Split T

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1020315536431960065

So 3.2 million in space. Does a buyout change our cap hit? If we buy him out for 6 million, do we get an additional 1.4 million in space? If we buy him out for the full contract and he signs a vet minimum deal, does the 2.4 million he makes with his new team come off our books? We could possibly be looking at 5-6 million in space. Not sure there is any free agents left worth pursuing, but add Troy Daniels to a deal and we could take back 8ish million in space!

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:52 am
by Split T
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:39 am
Ugh, I thought Arthur could've helped. But I guess we have our PF in Ariza smh.
Arthur is decent, just don't have minutes to give him. We're already in a log jam

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:57 am
by The Bobster
They could also get about $8 million under the cap if they waive and stretch him.

Then the idea of trading Daniels' expiring contract ($3.2 million) for somebody making up to $11 million is a possibility.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:57 am
by Split T

https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1020320852653592576

Not sure he's available, but he'd be solid

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:12 am
by carey
I like Dudley a lot and will miss him as part of the team. I hope we bring him back to work on the coaching staff/front office when he retires but I'm sure he'll be in line for a media job. The basketball reasons for the trade are obvious so nothing to add from me.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:32 am
by ShelC
We said we'd much rather have Reed/Harrison on the roster, we got it. Glad Reed is getting guaranteed.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:04 am
by ShelC

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1020337838850822145

Solid move.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:09 am
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:04 am

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1020337838850822145

Solid move.
Please explain. I've never heard of him. Why do we need another forward? What does he bring that we don't already have?