Phoenix Suns Media Day 2018

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Cap
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Re: Phoenix Suns Media Day 2018

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SDC wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:01 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:56 pm
SDC wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:32 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:11 am
+ 5 wins for not actively tanking.
+ 5 wins for having Igor.

That puts us at 33. Anything more or less than that shows us how our roster improved vs the rest of the west. I think 38 wins is optimistic but achievable.
-5 wins for not having a credible point guard
- 5 wins (potentially) for not trading away the 2019 suns first round pick and mcdo is tempted to tank again by midseason
+ 5 wins for having coach igor
+ 5 wins for having both ayton and mikal
You think our pg's are worse than last year?
We tanked the whole year last year, yet we're gonna win 5 less games this year by tanking half a season?

Your math makes no sense.
suns are going to win the same amount of games if suns got off to a poor start. but a five game improvement if they dont tank.
-15 for trading JJ for Dragic. :?

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Re: Phoenix Suns Media Day 2018

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Cap wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:02 pm
SDC wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:01 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:56 pm
SDC wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:32 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:11 am
+ 5 wins for not actively tanking.
+ 5 wins for having Igor.

That puts us at 33. Anything more or less than that shows us how our roster improved vs the rest of the west. I think 38 wins is optimistic but achievable.
-5 wins for not having a credible point guard
- 5 wins (potentially) for not trading away the 2019 suns first round pick and mcdo is tempted to tank again by midseason
+ 5 wins for having coach igor
+ 5 wins for having both ayton and mikal
You think our pg's are worse than last year?
We tanked the whole year last year, yet we're gonna win 5 less games this year by tanking half a season?

Your math makes no sense.
suns are going to win the same amount of games if suns got off to a poor start. but a five game improvement if they dont tank.
-15 for trading JJ for Dragic. :?
+ 5 for having a decent pg
+ 5 for not tanking
+ 5 for ayton and mikal
+ 5 for igor
+ 5 because of the dragic x factor

+25 over the previous suns record. do the math.

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Re: Phoenix Suns Media Day 2018

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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:33 pm
Cap wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:58 pm
pickle wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:37 pm
> So much for Bol Bol 2019... I wanted us to draft him just for the name.
Still can. He can come off the bench as a rookie. If he plays too well to remain a reserve, he’ll be easy enough to trade. Quality starting centers are a primo commodity.
I'm still not sure where Bol Bol fits in the NBA. Obviously he has the height, but I'm not sure he can take the pounding. He might just be a really tall stretch 4.
Based on physique and dimensions, he's not that different from Bamba, right?

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Re: Phoenix Suns Media Day 2018

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Cap wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:02 pm
SDC wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:01 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:56 pm
SDC wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:32 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:11 am
+ 5 wins for not actively tanking.
+ 5 wins for having Igor.

That puts us at 33. Anything more or less than that shows us how our roster improved vs the rest of the west. I think 38 wins is optimistic but achievable.
-5 wins for not having a credible point guard
- 5 wins (potentially) for not trading away the 2019 suns first round pick and mcdo is tempted to tank again by midseason
+ 5 wins for having coach igor
+ 5 wins for having both ayton and mikal
You think our pg's are worse than last year?
We tanked the whole year last year, yet we're gonna win 5 less games this year by tanking half a season?

Your math makes no sense.
suns are going to win the same amount of games if suns got off to a poor start. but a five game improvement if they dont tank.
-15 for trading JJ for Dragic. :?
ok, I laughed. :lol:
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Re: Phoenix Suns Media Day 2018

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SDC wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:22 pm
+ 5 for having a decent pg
+ 5 for not tanking
+ 5 for ayton and mikal
+ 5 for igor
+ 5 because of the dragic x factor

+25 over the previous suns record. do the math.
I have to admit, this made me chuckle.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:33 am
SDC wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:22 pm
+ 5 for having a decent pg
+ 5 for not tanking
+ 5 for ayton and mikal
+ 5 for igor
+ 5 because of the dragic x factor

+25 over the previous suns record. do the math.
I have to admit, this made me chuckle.
This is saying that Dragic will be a >10 win share player on our team, when he is only a 5 win share player on Miami. So of the 540 guys that played in the league last year, only 14 had win shares of 10 or above. I guess Dragic's name in 2018-2019 will be up there with Lebron, KD, and Westbrook. Yeah, do the math.

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pickle wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:41 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:50 pm
Shoot, even these tidbits made me get a little optimistic about Anderson and Ariza being on the team.

I really hope we stick with TJ. I'd like to give him the opportunity to improve as a Sun.
I remember you saying in another post that TJ is a decent/good contract. What do you see in him? And what would you want to see out of him for him to take that next step? I guess 3 point range is the easy answer and I always pine for defense, but defense is also a complicated topic. I would start with him having better focus on D for starters, but don't watch enough games to know more.
Warren is a talented scorer, and I think he can still get better. I would love for him to become a better 3-point shooter or a better rebounder. Both, of course, would be great.
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.

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