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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Indy » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:59 am

O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:35 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:16 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
This might seem crazy (still high from last night), but that 3rd number looks low.
It really does, and that's not just the high from last night. Booker could easily drop 6 himself, if he has the ball as much as he used to. 5 assists would be good for Booker if we are moving the ball and other are passing, and 2 assists would be good for a rookie center. But they are certainly capable of much more.

All of those numbers are good but not shocking. 50/18/9 would be a more optimistic prediction.
Well lets just aim for 60/20/10 then.

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Superbone » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:07 pm

Indy wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:59 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:35 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:16 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
This might seem crazy (still high from last night), but that 3rd number looks low.
It really does, and that's not just the high from last night. Booker could easily drop 6 himself, if he has the ball as much as he used to. 5 assists would be good for Booker if we are moving the ball and other are passing, and 2 assists would be good for a rookie center. But they are certainly capable of much more.

All of those numbers are good but not shocking. 50/18/9 would be a more optimistic prediction.
Well lets just aim for 60/20/10 then.
I like round numbers.
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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by In2ition » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:35 pm

Indy wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:59 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:35 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:16 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
This might seem crazy (still high from last night), but that 3rd number looks low.
It really does, and that's not just the high from last night. Booker could easily drop 6 himself, if he has the ball as much as he used to. 5 assists would be good for Booker if we are moving the ball and other are passing, and 2 assists would be good for a rookie center. But they are certainly capable of much more.

All of those numbers are good but not shocking. 50/18/9 would be a more optimistic prediction.
Well lets just aim for 60/20/10 then.
I wouldn't be surprised if one day they both hit 30 points or even 40 points a piece in a game. Might be some time down the line, even years, but I could actually envision it happening.
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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Split T » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:05 pm

O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
Just glancing through here...this was very close

42.9/14.4/7.6

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by JeremyG » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:17 pm

Split T wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:05 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
Just glancing through here...this was very close

42.9/14.4/7.6
You mean 8.6! Booker had 6.8 himself.

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Split T » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:24 pm

Ya, my bad. 8.6

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by In2ition » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:38 pm

Split T wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:05 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
Just glancing through here...this was very close

42.9/14.4/7.6
Pretty close. What's your prediction for next year? Ayton is sure to improve on all stats I imagine.
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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Split T » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:09 am

In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:38 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:05 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
Just glancing through here...this was very close

42.9/14.4/7.6
Pretty close. What's your prediction for next year? Ayton is sure to improve on all stats I imagine.
I imagine Ayton will go up...depends a lot on what our team looks like. Bookers numbers could change a lot depending on what we do at pg

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by O_Gardino » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:13 am

In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:38 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:05 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
Just glancing through here...this was very close

42.9/14.4/7.6
Pretty close. What's your prediction for next year? Ayton is sure to improve on all stats I imagine.
When I made that prediction, I actually thought it was a low bar. I thought we would run a lot more O through Ayton and that Booker's shooting would improve with someone else to pull defenders.

I'm not sure how much room Ayton has for improvement. In Igor's system, the offence goes through the wings. And Ayton doesn't play a physical enough game to draw fouls and box out like he could. I guess Ayton could work on his physical/mental stamina and stay on the court longer.
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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Indy » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:59 am

O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:13 am
In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:38 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:05 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
Just glancing through here...this was very close

42.9/14.4/7.6
Pretty close. What's your prediction for next year? Ayton is sure to improve on all stats I imagine.
When I made that prediction, I actually thought it was a low bar. I thought we would run a lot more O through Ayton and that Booker's shooting would improve with someone else to pull defenders.

I'm not sure how much room Ayton has for improvement. In Igor's system, the offence goes through the wings. And Ayton doesn't play a physical enough game to draw fouls and box out like he could. I guess Ayton could work on his physical/mental stamina and stay on the court longer.
For me, that is by far the most important thing for him to do this summer. He needs to be in much better shape. You see how winded he looks so quickly into games/stints.

For Booker, he needs to work on his body. He puts his body through a lot of trauma, and if he doesn't strengthen it, he will keep missing +20 games a year for little injuries here and there.

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by In2ition » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:24 am

Indy wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:59 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:13 am
In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:38 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:05 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm
My only prediction for the season:

Booker and Ayton will average a combined 45 / 15 / 7.
Just glancing through here...this was very close

42.9/14.4/7.6
Pretty close. What's your prediction for next year? Ayton is sure to improve on all stats I imagine.
When I made that prediction, I actually thought it was a low bar. I thought we would run a lot more O through Ayton and that Booker's shooting would improve with someone else to pull defenders.

I'm not sure how much room Ayton has for improvement. In Igor's system, the offence goes through the wings. And Ayton doesn't play a physical enough game to draw fouls and box out like he could. I guess Ayton could work on his physical/mental stamina and stay on the court longer.
For me, that is by far the most important thing for him to do this summer. He needs to be in much better shape. You see how winded he looks so quickly into games/stints.

For Booker, he needs to work on his body. He puts his body through a lot of trauma, and if he doesn't strengthen it, he will keep missing +20 games a year for little injuries here and there.
I agree with this. I think it's universally believed that with a good pg on the team, Ayton will get more touches in places he can score more often. I also think he got winded a little too quickly, but he was also bullied a little bit by some of the vets. He is gifted genetically and I think he can get a lot stronger this year. I really want to see him draw more fouls and score through contact this next year, not avoid contact by taking uncontested shots or turnaround jumpers every time. I want to see him get Gobert or any other big in foul trouble and run off the floor. I do think he will continue to improve his jumper and the percentages he scores. I would also like to see him go and dominate the boards physically, box out when needed, and basically own the paint.
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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Indy » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:50 am

I would also like to see him go and dominate the boards physically, box out when needed, and basically own the paint.
That takes a lot of energy, and right now he just doesn't have it. He needs to spend all summer sprinting 84 feet, hitting a push sled and backing it down to the baseline, then sprinting to the other side to do the same thing. Over and over and over.

I think he was so used to dominating by just being there, he never really had to work on these things.

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by In2ition » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:07 am

Indy wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:50 am
I would also like to see him go and dominate the boards physically, box out when needed, and basically own the paint.
That takes a lot of energy, and right now he just doesn't have it. He needs to spend all summer sprinting 84 feet, hitting a push sled and backing it down to the baseline, then sprinting to the other side to do the same thing. Over and over and over.

I think he was so used to dominating by just being there, he never really had to work on these things.
You're probably right about that. Get to work, Deandre! We need you to come back much better.
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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Indy » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:10 am

In2ition wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:07 am
Indy wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:50 am
I would also like to see him go and dominate the boards physically, box out when needed, and basically own the paint.
That takes a lot of energy, and right now he just doesn't have it. He needs to spend all summer sprinting 84 feet, hitting a push sled and backing it down to the baseline, then sprinting to the other side to do the same thing. Over and over and over.

I think he was so used to dominating by just being there, he never really had to work on these things.
You're probably right about that. Get to work, Deandre! We need you to come back much better.
I think a lot of that is why he has such empty stats this year. If you are only dominating when the game doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. You need to dominate when everyone is giving it their all, and the game is on the line.

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Indy » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:13 am

By the way, does anyone know how to look up our point differential by quarter? I would assume that 4th quarter is our best (we were usually down 20 so the other team wasn't doing too much), and the 2nd quarter was our worst--seems like we regularly were in the game until the 2nd quarter.

But that is all subjective, so I wanted to look it up.

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by In2ition » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:14 am

Indy wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:10 am
In2ition wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:07 am
Indy wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:50 am
I would also like to see him go and dominate the boards physically, box out when needed, and basically own the paint.
That takes a lot of energy, and right now he just doesn't have it. He needs to spend all summer sprinting 84 feet, hitting a push sled and backing it down to the baseline, then sprinting to the other side to do the same thing. Over and over and over.

I think he was so used to dominating by just being there, he never really had to work on these things.
You're probably right about that. Get to work, Deandre! We need you to come back much better.
I think a lot of that is why he has such empty stats this year. If you are only dominating when the game doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. You need to dominate when everyone is giving it their all, and the game is on the line.
Yeah we only saw that sporadically and occasionally. Like OT against the Magic, he dominated that OT and carried the Suns to the win.
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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Indy » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:49 am

Indy wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:13 am
By the way, does anyone know how to look up our point differential by quarter? I would assume that 4th quarter is our best (we were usually down 20 so the other team wasn't doing too much), and the 2nd quarter was our worst--seems like we regularly were in the game until the 2nd quarter.

But that is all subjective, so I wanted to look it up.
So I couldn't find an easy way to do it, but I was able to get the data:

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QTR  Suns  Opp   Diff
1st  2161  2402  -241
2nd  2179  2476  -297
3rd  2222  2277   -55
4th  2163  2333  -170
1OT    66    66     0
2OT    10    10     0
3OT    14    17    -3
So forgetting OTs, we were best in Q3, then Q4, then Q1, then Q2. In 82 games, we averaged losing the 2nd quarter by 3.62 points. Ouch.

I don't have any splits, but might work on them later to look at different parts of the season, or different player availability.

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by da_suns_fan » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:19 pm

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Re: 2018-2019 NBA season predictions

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:04 pm

Here's a rundown on my preseason wagers. I bet $5 on each of these.

Toronto - Over 55 wins (-140) - Winner: $3.57
Milwaukee - Over 48 wins (-120) - Winner: $4.17
New York - Under 29.5 wins (-150) - Winner: $3.33
Boston - Over 59 wins (-135) - Loser
DeAndre Ayton - ROY (+300) - Loser
James Harden - more total points than Russel Westbrook (-130) - Winner: $3.85
Kyrie Irving - will not be traded during the season (-130) - Winner: $3.85

Total Wagered: $35
End of Season: $43.77
Net Profit: $8.77
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