2019 NBA Draft Thread

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Suns win in OT and the Ducks win the P12 title. Dana Altman is a fucking gypsy.

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I like Tyler Herro as this year’s Huerter. He has a little Booker in him.

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This Murray St./Marquette game is the most I've watched of Morant in live action. I really like his energy and intensity. He's going to have some growing pains, but I see a lot of upside if everything goes well. I'd be happy if the Suns selected him.
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:33 pm
This Murray St./Marquette game is the most I've watched of Morant in live action. I really like his energy and intensity. He's going to have some growing pains, but I see a lot of upside if everything goes well. I'd be happy if the Suns selected him.
I think I'm OK with going in to next season with Johnson/Morant/Melton as our PG rotation, provided we can upgrade the 4 in a big way.

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15/15/10 right now with 4 minutes to go...he looks impressive

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I'm starting to warm up to picking Morant instead of trading the pick, if we get the number 2 pick. His turnovers still concern me a little bit, though.
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I’m ok with the turnovers...young pg’s are gonna turn the ball over. Do you think Ja could start as a rookie? I still think we’d need to get a vet...or keep Tyler Johnson around

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I'd have to see him in Summer League and pre-season, but my hunch now would be for him to start the season coming off the bench behind Johnson. Although, he looks to have the talent to push into the starting lineup as the season progresses.
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Split T wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:28 pm
I’m ok with the turnovers...young pg’s are gonna turn the ball over. Do you think Ja could start as a rookie? I still think we’d need to get a vet...or keep Tyler Johnson around
He could probably start. A cheap vet might work in case he's not quite ready to handle the full responsibilities of leading the team at point. I would want to make sure we spend most of our cap space on signing and/or trading for a PF, though, if we draft Morant.
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Fletcher MaGee anyone?
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wrong thread.

move along. nothing to see here.
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fletcher magee was outstanding individually last season. this year, wofford is on a 21 game winning streak. i'd open up a roster spot for him.


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next game tyler herro vs fletcher magee

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Split T wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:28 pm
I’m ok with the turnovers...young pg’s are gonna turn the ball over. Do you think Ja could start as a rookie? I still think we’d need to get a vet...or keep Tyler Johnson around
Yeah, same here on the TOs. I expect that even from good young PGs. Here is a list of guards with over 800 TOs by their Year 23 season.

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                       Crit Crit Tota  Tota Tota Tota
Rk              Player  TOV   WS    G    MP  AST  PTS
1          Kobe Bryant 1051 47.9  414 13425 1579 8197
2        Magic Johnson 1035 42.3  271 10064 2452 4958
3          Tony Parker  992 36.6  394 13068 2128 5914
4         Kyrie Irving  851 31.4  309 10499 1696 6416
5         Derrick Rose  816 30.0  279 10272 1911 5858
6         Isiah Thomas 1234 30.0  316 11622 3236 6547
7      Stephon Marbury 1097 29.5  339 12769 2791 6789
8    Russell Westbrook 1097 25.4  312 10659 2119 5929
9       Gilbert Arenas  855 23.4  264  9361 1374 5124
10        Reggie Theus  910 19.3  246  8602 1370 4547
11           John Wall  968 18.2  266  9574 2198 4696
12        Jrue Holiday  906 16.0  332 10933 1994 4481
13        Devin Booker  833  9.0  266  8743 1111 5598
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Generated 3/22/2019.

Heck, even the front court players are impressive.

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                           Crit Crit Tota  Tota Tota  Tota
Rk                  Player  TOV   WS    G    MP  AST   PTS
1             LeBron James 1300 64.6  391 16088 2572 10689
2            Dwight Howard 1202 52.2  407 14623  580  7035
3            Tracy McGrady  888 51.7  420 13700 1637  8542
4             Kevin Durant 1194 50.5  380 14476 1073  9978
5          Shaquille ONeal  888 48.3  295 11164  716  8019
6    Giannis Antetokounmpo  960 38.9  393 12862 1497  6751
7            Kevin Garnett  880 38.3  367 13533 1332  6496
8          Carmelo Anthony 1176 35.8  379 13836 1145  9264
9          Charles Barkley  881 30.3  230  8039  798  4315
10     Shareef Abdur-Rahim  917 23.2  294 10996  831  6138
11              Josh Smith  930 21.0  376 12550  995  5262
12        DeMarcus Cousins  914 17.6  291  8846  712  5197
13          Cliff Robinson  879 17.0  351 10661  653  6126
14          Antoine Walker  900 14.0  288 10790  970  5739
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Indy wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:12 am
Yeah, same here on the TOs. I expect that even from good young PGs. Here is a list of guards with over 800 TOs by their Year 23 season.
Come on Indy, you know better than that. Obviously players with 800 total TO by age 23 are players who play a lot before age 23, and those are generally impressive players. The list of young players with high turnover rates is considerably less impressive (and does not include Booker!).

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I really love Morant. I was debating with myself earlier, "If the Suns got the #1, and the Bulls got the #2, would I trade the #1 for the #2 and Markkanen?" I don't know, but I would think about it a lot. I love Zion and think he's going to be a good player with a long, great, career, but I think Morant can be a guy who elevates a team to championships.

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wpmiller42 wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:58 am
I really love Morant. I was debating with myself earlier, "If the Suns got the #1, and the Bulls got the #2, would I trade the #1 for the #2 and Markkanen?" I don't know, but I would think about it a lot. I love Zion and think he's going to be a good player with a long, great, career, but I think Morant can be a guy who elevates a team to championships.
I would think about it, but even the Bulls would like Morant.
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That is a funny idea for a trade. If we started all of:

Morant
Booker
Markannen
Ayton

That would be a horrendous defensive team. But that's a lot of firepower, too. You probably have to keep Zion if you get the #1 pick (a trade like that, if it fails, can crush a franchise). But it's at least a fun idea to think about.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:26 am
That is a funny idea for a trade. If we started all of:

Morant
Booker
Markannen
Ayton

That would be a horrendous defensive team. But that's a lot of firepower, too. You probably have to keep Zion if you get the #1 pick (a trade like that, if it fails, can crush a franchise). But it's at least a fun idea to think about.
How do you crush something that’s already flat as a doormat?

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