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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:20 pm
by In2ition
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:16 pm
In2ition wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:53 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:50 pm
I think some of these comments might be pretty funny in a few years. I love Brandon Clarke, but Zion could be a 1st team all-nba guy, a true alpha dog. Zion to Clarke could be like AD to MKG.
I'm not saying that Clarke will be better than Zion. Not at all. I'm just saying it's possible in the long run that he might be a better fit for the team they are building, and it's not the end of the world if they fall.
I know, just think if Zion ends up an all-nba guy, it’d be silly to have taken a role player over him, regardless of how he fits. And Clarke needs a jump shot to be a great fit.
You're right about him possibly becoming an All-NBA player. I'm not sure that Clarke doesn't develop a better jump shot quicker than Zion does. Have you seen the improvements he's made?

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:26 pm
by Split T
In2ition wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:20 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:16 pm
In2ition wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:53 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:50 pm
I think some of these comments might be pretty funny in a few years. I love Brandon Clarke, but Zion could be a 1st team all-nba guy, a true alpha dog. Zion to Clarke could be like AD to MKG.
I'm not saying that Clarke will be better than Zion. Not at all. I'm just saying it's possible in the long run that he might be a better fit for the team they are building, and it's not the end of the world if they fall.
I know, just think if Zion ends up an all-nba guy, it’d be silly to have taken a role player over him, regardless of how he fits. And Clarke needs a jump shot to be a great fit.
You're right about him possibly becoming an All-NBA player. I'm not sure that Clarke doesn't develop a better jump shot quicker than Zion does. Have you seen the improvements he's made?
Yes, Clarke has improved a lot, but Zion isn’t as broken of a shooter as some think. He ended up at 34% from 3. That’s good enough considering all that he brings to the table.

I view Zion like Giannis...they’re different as Giannis is much longer, but Zion is more athletic. Zion will be a 4/5 like Giannis, that can play on the perimeter and abuse people down low. He also has similar defensive potential.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:41 pm
by In2ition
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:26 pm
In2ition wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:20 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:16 pm
In2ition wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:53 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:50 pm
I think some of these comments might be pretty funny in a few years. I love Brandon Clarke, but Zion could be a 1st team all-nba guy, a true alpha dog. Zion to Clarke could be like AD to MKG.
I'm not saying that Clarke will be better than Zion. Not at all. I'm just saying it's possible in the long run that he might be a better fit for the team they are building, and it's not the end of the world if they fall.
I know, just think if Zion ends up an all-nba guy, it’d be silly to have taken a role player over him, regardless of how he fits. And Clarke needs a jump shot to be a great fit.
You're right about him possibly becoming an All-NBA player. I'm not sure that Clarke doesn't develop a better jump shot quicker than Zion does. Have you seen the improvements he's made?
Yes, Clarke has improved a lot, but Zion isn’t as broken of a shooter as some think. He ended up at 34% from 3. That’s good enough considering all that he brings to the table.

I view Zion like Giannis...they’re different as Giannis is much longer, but Zion is more athletic. Zion will be a 4/5 like Giannis, that can play on the perimeter and abuse people down low. He also has similar defensive potential.
You're right, Zion would be awesome.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:51 pm
by Split T
And I do still have Clarke 3rd on my board for the record

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 3:04 pm
by In2ition
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:51 pm
And I do still have Clarke 3rd on my board for the record
Clarke is the Marion of this draft, lol.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:52 pm
by sunshoopjunky
When I watch Zion play 2 words come to mind, “microfracture surgery”. I guess that’s the curse of being a Suns fan.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:57 pm
by In2ition
Yes, being a Suns fan takes all the joy out of their luck?

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:04 pm
by Split T
sunshoopjunky wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 7:52 pm
When I watch Zion play 2 words come to mind, “microfracture surgery”. I guess that’s the curse of being a sons fan.
That’s not really a thing anymore

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:12 pm
by sunshoopjunky
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 8:04 pm
sunshoopjunky wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 7:52 pm
When I watch Zion play 2 words come to mind, “microfracture surgery”. I guess that’s the curse of being a sons fan.
That’s not really a thing anymore
And yet another sign I am getting too old for this lol.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:51 pm
by Split T
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish
Reddish scares me...he could be really nice if he pans out though.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:52 pm
by Indy
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish
Is it crazy to think Garland would be the best PG in this draft (and best on our team if we took him)? Even as a rookie?

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:54 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Split T wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish
Reddish scares me...he could be really nice if he pans out though.
He doesn't scare me any more or less than guys like Culver, Hunter, Little, etc..

It's impossible to have too many shooters and I think he has the best combination of size and shooting at the top of the draft.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:06 pm
by JeremyG
Indy wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish
Is it crazy to think Garland would be the best PG in this draft (and best on our team if we took him)? Even as a rookie?
It’s not crazy to think he would be our best point guard. Smush Parker could be the best point guard on our team.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:07 pm
by Indy
JeremyG wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 7:06 pm
Indy wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish
Is it crazy to think Garland would be the best PG in this draft (and best on our team if we took him)? Even as a rookie?
It’s not crazy to think he would be our best point guard. Smush Parker could be the best point guard on our team.
Yeah, but I really meant about this draft.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:07 pm
by Cap
JeremyG wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 7:06 pm
Indy wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish
Is it crazy to think Garland would be the best PG in this draft (and best on our team if we took him)? Even as a rookie?
It’s not crazy to think he would be our best point guard. Smush Parker could be the best point guard on our team.
My grandmother could be the best point guard on our team, and she’s dead.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:10 pm
by Split T
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:54 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish
Reddish scares me...he could be really nice if he pans out though.
He doesn't scare me any more or less than guys like Culver, Hunter, Little, etc..

It's impossible to have too many shooters and I think he has the best combination of size and shooting at the top of the draft.
That’s fair...he was just not good as a freshman. Hunter isn’t as dynamic a shooter, but he was very good in catch and shoot situations and will defend.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:11 pm
by Split T
Indy wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish
Is it crazy to think Garland would be the best PG in this draft (and best on our team if we took him)? Even as a rookie?
I think Garland has a ways to go to be a run the offense pg, but he’ll be a scorer right away. He can really shoot, which is nice.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:13 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Split T wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 7:10 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:54 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Not considering any trades or FA signings, my three targets for #6.

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Darius Garland
3. Cam Reddish
Reddish scares me...he could be really nice if he pans out though.
He doesn't scare me any more or less than guys like Culver, Hunter, Little, etc..

It's impossible to have too many shooters and I think he has the best combination of size and shooting at the top of the draft.
That’s fair...he was just not good as a freshman. Hunter isn’t as dynamic a shooter, but he was very good in catch and shoot situations and will defend.
I'm not against Hunter even though I came away unimpressed most of the time I watched Virginia. I just think he has the lowest ceiling.

It would be great if a guy like Reddish is available at #6 because I definitely think at least one team drafting behind the Suns will love him. Then the Suns could move back a bit and still get a guy like Hunter while picking up another asset.

Swap 6 for 8 with Atlanta and pick up a future protected first rounder. Something like that.

Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:31 pm
by Shabazz
I don’t think the Suns need to be drafting a swingman with serious motor concerns (Reddish). Doesn’t seem like a marriage that makes sense for either side.