+1 . EJ is one of the best in the business.Nodack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:30 pmI really appreciate Eddie Johnson. He has a players perspective and compliments good play from either team instead of being a homer.
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Great post on the Jazz and their fans. I'm sure they took the worst character traits of Celtic fans and thought, "This is how we can be and take it to another level!"azsportsfan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:18 amSo true. I watch the Jazz games because I live in the market and I enjoy watching basketball. I really dislike the Jazz though. And the TV/radio guys take the cake for homerism. The Jazz never do anything wrong, the refs missed the call, a Mitchell layup is the greatest shot ever seen by man, etc. Now they are struggling because they were the clutchiest, grabbiest, elbowiest, moving-screeniest team in the league and little of that is allowed this season with the new emphasis on movement. But no fan thinks this because they were told their team never did anything wrong. Every other team/fan knew the Jazz were "dirty".Nodack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:30 pmI really appreciate Eddie Johnson. He has a players perspective and compliments good play from either team instead of being a homer.
Anyways, I like that EJ calls out the Suns for doing things wrong. We have a good broadcast even though I can't stand our last couple of play-by-lay guys..
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Al was great. Cotton was great. Gary Bender had his charm. What has happened to this organization that we can’t put a decent pbp on TV anymore? Does Sarver drive away even the TV talent?azsportsfan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:18 amWe have a good broadcast even though I can't stand our last couple of play-by-lay guys..
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Kevin Ray is just kind of... there.
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Yes... Yes she does.
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Kevin Ray does Cowboys games, thats all you need to say about him. Epitome of average.
Lindsey and EJ are great.
Lindsey and EJ are great.
Fire Frank Vogel.
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Hard to attract good talent to a shitty team. I am so glad we have Eddie and Lindsey. Tom and Tom? Meh. Same with K-ray, who seems to be a great guy. Just not good at play by play. Maybe he will get better over time. But he doesn't sound like the kind of guy that grew up pretending to be a play-by-play guy while watching his friends play sports like Al. You get the feeling Al had completely honed his craft by the time he was 9.
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He does sound like a football guy now that you mention it. He doesn't seem to have a lot of passion for the game of basketball.TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:36 pmKevin Ray does Cowboys games, thats all you need to say about him. Epitome of average.
Lindsey and EJ are great.
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K-Ray is great in that Nugenix commercial with Frank Thomas.
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I don't think it's as important to have a great TV play by play guy on as it is on the radio (for obvious reasons), and Ray is a step up from Leander, but he's pretty dull.
And while I though Al McCoy was starting to show his age a bit last year when I caught a preseason game on the radio this year he was back to his usual self.
And while I though Al McCoy was starting to show his age a bit last year when I caught a preseason game on the radio this year he was back to his usual self.
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That's where he really excels.
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Rewatching this outside the euphoria of the moment, I see that exciting, awesome finish is really not that awesome.
We complain a lot about hero ball around here, but somehow the term never comes up when it’s working. Much of Devin’s fourth-quarter explosion was a product of hero ball. The last two possessions in particular, Devin was “Everybody get out of the way, I’m shooting this,” the Grizz knew he was shooting and defended him very well, and he took and hit tough shots under pressure. We all love Devin because he can hit those shots, but I imagine a Pop team would be getting better shots in those situations instead of relying on Devin’s ability to hit tough ones.
We complain a lot about hero ball around here, but somehow the term never comes up when it’s working. Much of Devin’s fourth-quarter explosion was a product of hero ball. The last two possessions in particular, Devin was “Everybody get out of the way, I’m shooting this,” the Grizz knew he was shooting and defended him very well, and he took and hit tough shots under pressure. We all love Devin because he can hit those shots, but I imagine a Pop team would be getting better shots in those situations instead of relying on Devin’s ability to hit tough ones.
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Agreed, with the caveat that Pops would have at least 3 guys on the floor that could hit the shot in the big moment and put into a better position to do so.Cap wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:36 pmRewatching this outside the euphoria of the moment, I see that exciting, awesome finish is really not that awesome.
We complain a lot about hero ball around here, but somehow the term never comes up when it’s working. Much of Devin’s fourth-quarter explosion was a product of hero ball. The last two possessions in particular, Devin was “Everybody get out of the way, I’m shooting this,” the Grizz knew he was shooting and defended him very well, and he took and hit tough shots under pressure. We all love Devin because he can hit those shots, but I imagine a Pop team would be getting better shots in those situations instead of relying on Devin’s ability to hit tough ones.
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Devin has been at his best this season when he plays outside of the system. Even in that first game, his late scoring came when he took it on himself to create and make shots.Cap wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:36 pmRewatching this outside the euphoria of the moment, I see that exciting, awesome finish is really not that awesome.
We complain a lot about hero ball around here, but somehow the term never comes up when it’s working. Much of Devin’s fourth-quarter explosion was a product of hero ball. The last two possessions in particular, Devin was “Everybody get out of the way, I’m shooting this,” the Grizz knew he was shooting and defended him very well, and he took and hit tough shots under pressure. We all love Devin because he can hit those shots, but I imagine a Pop team would be getting better shots in those situations instead of relying on Devin’s ability to hit tough ones.
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Then the system is broken. Those are the only games we've won.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:32 pmDevin has been at his best this season when he plays outside of the system. Even in that first game, his late scoring came when he took it on himself to create and make shots.Cap wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:36 pmRewatching this outside the euphoria of the moment, I see that exciting, awesome finish is really not that awesome.
We complain a lot about hero ball around here, but somehow the term never comes up when it’s working. Much of Devin’s fourth-quarter explosion was a product of hero ball. The last two possessions in particular, Devin was “Everybody get out of the way, I’m shooting this,” the Grizz knew he was shooting and defended him very well, and he took and hit tough shots under pressure. We all love Devin because he can hit those shots, but I imagine a Pop team would be getting better shots in those situations instead of relying on Devin’s ability to hit tough ones.
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A broken system is not the issue. Devin can't play that way all game, and probably wouldn't have even bothered in the 4th if we hadn't kept it close the rest of the game. Late game heroics by our best player is not a problem of our team. We need to get to a point where we can let him do that more often so he can close them out for us. Doesn't do any good when we are down by 20.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:45 pmThen the system is broken. Those are the only games we've won.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:32 pmDevin has been at his best this season when he plays outside of the system. Even in that first game, his late scoring came when he took it on himself to create and make shots.Cap wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:36 pmRewatching this outside the euphoria of the moment, I see that exciting, awesome finish is really not that awesome.
We complain a lot about hero ball around here, but somehow the term never comes up when it’s working. Much of Devin’s fourth-quarter explosion was a product of hero ball. The last two possessions in particular, Devin was “Everybody get out of the way, I’m shooting this,” the Grizz knew he was shooting and defended him very well, and he took and hit tough shots under pressure. We all love Devin because he can hit those shots, but I imagine a Pop team would be getting better shots in those situations instead of relying on Devin’s ability to hit tough ones.
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Seems like we don't play well within the system.Indy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:53 pmA broken system is not the issue. Devin can't play that way all game, and probably wouldn't have even bothered in the 4th if we hadn't kept it close the rest of the game. Late game heroics by our best player is not a problem of our team. We need to get to a point where we can let him do that more often so he can close them out for us. Doesn't do any good when we are down by 20.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:45 pmThen the system is broken. Those are the only games we've won.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:32 pmDevin has been at his best this season when he plays outside of the system. Even in that first game, his late scoring came when he took it on himself to create and make shots.Cap wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:36 pmRewatching this outside the euphoria of the moment, I see that exciting, awesome finish is really not that awesome.
We complain a lot about hero ball around here, but somehow the term never comes up when it’s working. Much of Devin’s fourth-quarter explosion was a product of hero ball. The last two possessions in particular, Devin was “Everybody get out of the way, I’m shooting this,” the Grizz knew he was shooting and defended him very well, and he took and hit tough shots under pressure. We all love Devin because he can hit those shots, but I imagine a Pop team would be getting better shots in those situations instead of relying on Devin’s ability to hit tough ones.
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We don't play well, period. We are one of the worst teams in the league. By some measures, we are by far the worst team in the league.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:02 pmSeems like we don't play well within the system.Indy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:53 pmA broken system is not the issue. Devin can't play that way all game, and probably wouldn't have even bothered in the 4th if we hadn't kept it close the rest of the game. Late game heroics by our best player is not a problem of our team. We need to get to a point where we can let him do that more often so he can close them out for us. Doesn't do any good when we are down by 20.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:45 pmThen the system is broken. Those are the only games we've won.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:32 pmDevin has been at his best this season when he plays outside of the system. Even in that first game, his late scoring came when he took it on himself to create and make shots.Cap wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:36 pmRewatching this outside the euphoria of the moment, I see that exciting, awesome finish is really not that awesome.
We complain a lot about hero ball around here, but somehow the term never comes up when it’s working. Much of Devin’s fourth-quarter explosion was a product of hero ball. The last two possessions in particular, Devin was “Everybody get out of the way, I’m shooting this,” the Grizz knew he was shooting and defended him very well, and he took and hit tough shots under pressure. We all love Devin because he can hit those shots, but I imagine a Pop team would be getting better shots in those situations instead of relying on Devin’s ability to hit tough ones.
Is there a system you see that would make us competitive with the talent we have used so far? If you want to blame Igor for playing Anderson and Tyson and Ariza so much, that is fair. But we also don't know what factors are playing into that. We had reached a buy out with Tyson a while ago, but were playing him in hopes we could find a trade partner. Who knows what we promised Anderson to get him to give back 7 million dollars next year.