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Last Week's Games

vs. Brooklyn LOSS 104-82
vs. Boston LOSS 116-109
@ New Orleans LOSS 119-99

This Week's Games

Monday, November 12th @ Oklahoma City 8:00 PM EST
Wednesday, November 14th vs. San Antonio 9:00 PM EST
Saturday, November 17th vs. Oklahoma City 9:00 PM EST

Suns Stories

Suns' Kokoskov, Ayton at odds about early aggressiveness: https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 968161002/

Suns' identity crisis continues in loss to Pelicans: https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 963071002/

Suns' TJ Warren still scoring in Kokoskov's system: https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 958818002/

Center of the Sun - Suns now 2-10 after another winless week: https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018 ... nless-week

3J Warren is the Phoenix Suns' biggest surprise of the season: https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018 ... the-season
Go Suns!

Og Snus!

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I don't like that Ayton says he's a rhythm player. It just tells me he's not an aggressive player and with his size and agility, he should be! We all see that he has all the tools to be so much more but he's content to just let the game come to him.
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:55 pm
I don't like that Ayton says he's a rhythm player. It just tells me he's not an aggressive player and with his size and agility, he should be! We all see that he has all the tools to be so much more but he's content to just let the game come to him.
Yeah, I don't like that he doesn't understand what Igor says about being Aggressive. So he's admitting he's not a bully and that his hashtag #bullyszn was hogwash and that he's a full finesse player? Ugh. This is why the Suns need Zion in the worst way. His energy, aggressiveness and physicality is infectious to the rest of the team and the Suns can't afford another apathetic and tepid player.
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In2ition wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:00 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:55 pm
I don't like that Ayton says he's a rhythm player. It just tells me he's not an aggressive player and with his size and agility, he should be! We all see that he has all the tools to be so much more but he's content to just let the game come to him.
Yeah, I don't like that he doesn't understand what Igor says about being Aggressive. So he's admitting he's not a bully and that his hashtag #bullyszn was hogwash and that he's a full finesse player? Ugh. This is why the Suns need Zion in the worst way. His energy, aggressiveness and physicality is infectious to the rest of the team and the Suns can't afford another apathetic and tepid player.
He claims he is still aggressive on the defensive end, just doesn't believe in being aggressive on the offensive end.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.

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JeremyG wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:55 pm
In2ition wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:00 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:55 pm
I don't like that Ayton says he's a rhythm player. It just tells me he's not an aggressive player and with his size and agility, he should be! We all see that he has all the tools to be so much more but he's content to just let the game come to him.
Yeah, I don't like that he doesn't understand what Igor says about being Aggressive. So he's admitting he's not a bully and that his hashtag #bullyszn was hogwash and that he's a full finesse player? Ugh. This is why the Suns need Zion in the worst way. His energy, aggressiveness and physicality is infectious to the rest of the team and the Suns can't afford another apathetic and tepid player.
He claims he is still aggressive on the defensive end, just doesn't believe in being aggressive on the offensive end.
Yeah, I don't like hearing that. I want him to learn how to get players into foul trouble, make the shot and go to the line. That way he gets 3 points, starts getting into the 2nd and 3rd string guys and can really bully them.
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Ayton didnt play with any sort of physical aggression at Arizona, not sure why people thought he'd be something different. He's always measured out well, but his play has never matched his physical traits. Bullyszn was always a lame line, that's not his game.
Jones and Vogel gotta go.

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UglyTruth wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:05 pm
This is obviously Devin Bookers fault.
Jones and Vogel gotta go.

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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:06 pm
UglyTruth wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:05 pm
This is obviously Devin Bookers fault.
Or TJ’s. The only constants.

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Cap wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:08 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:06 pm
UglyTruth wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:05 pm
This is obviously Devin Bookers fault.
Or TJ’s. The only constants.
Yep. Scary really, 2 of our best players have no idea how to win.
Jones and Vogel gotta go.

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This is our lineup to start the second quarter tonight.

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Shabazz wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:44 pm


This is our lineup to start the second quarter tonight.
Everyone but the Suns FO knows we need a PG, team seems content with Canaan and Booker running things. Barf.
Jones and Vogel gotta go.

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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:51 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:44 pm


This is our lineup to start the second quarter tonight.
Everyone but the Suns FO knows we need a PG, team seems content with Canaan and Booker running things. Barf.
I thought it was why Sarver fired McDonough tho. LOL.
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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:51 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:44 pm


This is our lineup to start the second quarter tonight.
Everyone but the Suns FO knows we need a PG, team seems content with Canaan and Booker running things. Barf.
They must really like Barrett and Zion.
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:32 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:51 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:44 pm


This is our lineup to start the second quarter tonight.
Everyone but the Suns FO knows we need a PG, team seems content with Canaan and Booker running things. Barf.
They must really like Barrett and Zion.
I wouldn't complain if either were in a Suns uni. That would be a nice core, I just worry that because asshole Sarver is still the owner we would continue to suck.

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Nothing we don’t already know but is a fair assessment; delivering the horse sh*t that is our ball club all in one, nice, tidy package.

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Zion and Ayton together would provide zero spacing unless one of them learns to shoot 3s well.

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Shabazz wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:44 pm


This is our lineup to start the second quarter tonight.
Okobo looks fine when playing with Booker. He looks worse with JJ just like most players would.

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Suns best chance at success this season is trading JJ + Daniels for Fultz and hoping Kokoskov can revert Fultz back to the Washington Fultz.

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It’s a gamble worth making imo.

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