Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

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Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

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Nationally televised games this week

Monday: New Orleans @ Toronto 7:30 PM EST NBATv, Golden State @ L.A. Clippers 10:30 PM EST NBATv
Tuesday: Charlotte @ Cleveland 7:00 PM EST NBATv, Atlanta @ Golden State 10:30 PM EST NBATv
Wednesday: New Orleans @ Minnesota 8:00 PM EST ESPN, Portland @ L.A. Lakers 10:30 PM EST ESPN
Thursday: Golden State @ Houston @ 8:00 PM EST TNT, San Antonio @ L.A. Clippers 10:30 PM EST TNT
Friday: Toronto @ Boston 7:00 PM EST ESPN, Chicago @ Milwaukee 9:30 PM EST ESPN
Saturday: Utah @ Boston 7:30 PM EST NBATv
Sunday: Golden State @ San Antonio 7:00 PM EST NBATv

NBA News

Carmelo Anthony's teammates don't believe he will return to Rockets: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2525 ... on-rockets

Jimmer Fredette scores 40 in 4th, 75 overall in Chinese Basketball Association game: Jimmer Fredette scores 40 in 4th, 75 overall in Chinese Basketball Association game

From Tom Ziller - the 3 important things we learned from the Jimmy Butler trade.
1. The Wolves got less for Jimmy than the Spurs got for Kawhi Leonard and the Pacers got for Paul George. We're not even grading Indiana on a curve here given Victor Oladipo's huge rise after the trade: Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis were a better package than Saric and RoCo, especially since Minnesota is also giving up Patton. DeMar DeRozan and Jakob Poeltl are a better package too, even with Danny Green also going to Toronto. Jimmy's stock has fallen, or the Wolves' front office performed worse than the others, or both.

2. Elton Brand is extraordinarily brave. Brand just took over the lead job in the Sixers front office a couple months ago. He just watched Butler ruin the chemistry of a young team with shaky internal leadership. And now he's injecting Jimmy straight into a team with brash Joel Embiid, calm Ben Simmons, and skittish Markelle Fultz. What a huge bet! I love it.

3. Jimmy Butler is absolutely in play this summer. Since Jimmy didn't land with the Heat, Knicks (who were apparently never in the mix, good for them), and Clippers -- three teams he targeted -- it would seem he'll be in play as a free agent this summer. The Sixers can pay to keep him if they want to and if he wants to. It should be interesting to read those tea leaves.
Lakers reach .500 after a... Tyson Chandler block of a Trae Young finger roll (carey's note: "A what now?") \: https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/201 ... trae-young

DeMar DeRozan is on his way to a season matched only by Michael Jordan: https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/11 ... tart-means
Go Suns!

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ariza for fultz... thats our PG!

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big mistake by philly. jimmy doesnt play well with the younglings. heat would have been perfect landing spot for him.

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SDC wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:33 pm
ariza for fultz... thats our PG!
I don't advocate trading for Fultz merely because we're not developing the players we have. So we're going to trade for a broken player that needs a ton of development? That's a no from me, dawg.

I do advocate for someone's previous proposal of Troy Daniels for TJ McConnell. We need a PG that can take care of the ball and attempt to play defense. They need shooting badly.
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Do we still think that Fultz is still good?
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carey wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:51 pm
SDC wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:33 pm
ariza for fultz... thats our PG!
I don't advocate trading for Fultz merely because we're not developing the players we have. So we're going to trade for a broken player that needs a ton of development? That's a no from me, dawg.

I do advocate for someone's previous proposal of Troy Daniels for TJ McConnell. We need a PG that can take care of the ball and attempt to play defense. They need shooting badly.
why would philly trade their useful backup pg? philly just showcasing fultz.

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carey wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:51 pm
SDC wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:33 pm
ariza for fultz... thats our PG!
I don't advocate trading for Fultz merely because we're not developing the players we have. So we're going to trade for a broken player that needs a ton of development? That's a no from me, dawg.

I do advocate for someone's previous proposal of Troy Daniels for TJ McConnell. We need a PG that can take care of the ball and attempt to play defense. They need shooting badly.
That is why I am bummed Brooklyn has been playing well. I was hoping that would suck and be willing to trade Dinwiddie. We could use the net rating he provides, and his +40 3P%. Can he throw a ball into a big in the post? :roll:

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theres no risk in an ariza for fultz trade. ariza will be gone next year

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instead of mcconnell, linsanity.

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In2ition wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:53 pm
Do we still think that Fultz is still good?
He's starting for them and his numbers are ok. He ought to be better than anything we have.

Let's reverse the question: Any chance the 76ers would do Jackson for Fultz?
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O_Gardino wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:20 pm
In2ition wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:53 pm
Do we still think that Fultz is still good?
He's starting for them and his numbers are ok. He ought to be better than anything we have.

Let's reverse the question: Any chance the 76ers would do Jackson for Fultz?
no effing way. as you said, he is starting for them, playing 24 mpg, and doing fine. JJ is not.


Per Game Averages

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Player            G GS   MP  FG FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P 2PA  2P% eFG%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF PTS
Markelle Fultz   14 14 24.3 3.9 9.1 .422 0.3 0.9 .308 3.6 8.2 .435 .438 1.3 2.1 .600 1.4 2.5 3.9 3.4 1.1 0.3 1.4 2.9 9.3
Josh Jackson     12  3 18.1 2.9 7.1 .412 0.6 2.2 .269 2.3 4.9 .475 .453 0.7 1.3 .533 0.1 2.0 2.1 1.7 0.5 0.7 2.9 2.6 7.1
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Player            G GS  MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Markelle Fultz   14 14 340 5.7 13.6 .422 0.4 1.4 .308 5.3 12.2 .435 1.9 3.2 .600 2.1 3.7 5.8 5.1 1.7 0.4 2.0 4.2 13.8
Josh Jackson     12  3 217 5.8 14.1 .412 1.2 4.3 .269 4.6  9.8 .475 1.3 2.5 .533 0.2 4.0 4.1 3.3 1.0 1.3 5.8 5.1 14.1
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Sounds like Caris LeVert just had a Paul George/Gordon Hayward level injury. That really sucks.

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Bummer
👀 Fire Frank Vogel.

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In2ition wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:53 pm
Do we still think that Fultz is still good?
No.
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Does this help you make a decision about Fultz?

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I’m so jealous. I just watched the Clippers beat the Warriors and then the Kings beat the Spurs. To add insult to injury, Bogdan and Fox hit big shots down the stretch.
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:10 pm
Does this help you make a decision about Fultz?

Shouldn't he get to do it over? Isn't that a lane violation? :lol:
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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:11 am
Superbone wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:10 pm
Does this help you make a decision about Fultz?
Shouldn't he get to do it over? Isn't that a lane violation? :lol:
Do you really want to see it again?
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I want no part of Fultz. He'd break our hearts. And he's not the kind of player we need.

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Joel Embiid is putting up some video game numbers this season.

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