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Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:41 am
SDC wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:36 am
SGA wouldnt help this team this year and next.
I don't see how not. He's helping the West best Clippers right now in a starting role.
If we traded for SGA we wouldn’t have traded for Bridges. Shai could help us out at a position of need, but in the long run I think we might be happier with Mikal. I’m not rending my garments over that deal falling through.

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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1068523826458198020

I know some here liked Frank during the draft but I've watched him a lot and he's not what we need. Not about a change of scenery.
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ShelC wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:31 am

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1068523826458198020

I know some here liked Frank during the draft but I've watched him a lot and he's not what we need. Not about a change of scenery,
I'm one of Frank's biggest supporters here, but I agree that he's not what we need right now. He would be great on a team with Booker / Doncic / and the guy Bender was supposed to be.
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Nikitilina has been awful. Like, worse than Canaan, Okobo, and Melton by every statistical measure I can find. Just say no. You can find G-League players who are better.

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I'm not sure there's an NBA player there. Maybe he can carve out a niche as a defender, but right now he's DJ Strawberry.

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O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:30 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:31 am

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1068523826458198020

I know some here liked Frank during the draft but I've watched him a lot and he's not what we need. Not about a change of scenery,
I'm one of Frank's biggest supporters here, but I agree that he's not what we need right now. He would be great on a team with Booker / Doncic / and the guy Bender was supposed to be.
But what about his league leading assists? And how did I ever agree that it's going to take until 2025 for him to "get going" in your words?
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Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:53 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:45 am
What's the point of the Suns leaking information like that? It will just eat away at Okobo's confidence. SGA is good, and we should have tried to get him, but it's in the past.
Sensationalism. Gambo is a carnival barker.
Indeed. And do you know it is current suns leaking it? Maybe he got it from McDo, to show that he had a plan for PG.

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Indy wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:16 am
Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:53 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:45 am
What's the point of the Suns leaking information like that? It will just eat away at Okobo's confidence. SGA is good, and we should have tried to get him, but it's in the past.
Sensationalism. Gambo is a carnival barker.
Indeed. And do you know it is current suns leaking it? Maybe he got it from McDo, to show that he had a plan for PG.
I thought it was known McD wanted SGA but Sarver wanted Bridges. And regardless, he took Bridges and still signed Ariza. He could've put that money towards a PG.

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ShelC wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:25 am
Indy wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:16 am
Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:53 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:45 am
What's the point of the Suns leaking information like that? It will just eat away at Okobo's confidence. SGA is good, and we should have tried to get him, but it's in the past.
Sensationalism. Gambo is a carnival barker.
Indeed. And do you know it is current suns leaking it? Maybe he got it from McDo, to show that he had a plan for PG.
I thought it was known McD wanted SGA but Sarver wanted Bridges. And regardless, he took Bridges and still signed Ariza. He could've put that money towards a PG.
Since Bridges wasn't his guy, he probably thought that he wasn't going to be ready to play and was stubborn on his plan to sign Ariza. His stubbornness on this could have been his demise, but we may never know for sure.
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ShelC wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:25 am
Indy wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:16 am
Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:53 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:45 am
What's the point of the Suns leaking information like that? It will just eat away at Okobo's confidence. SGA is good, and we should have tried to get him, but it's in the past.
Sensationalism. Gambo is a carnival barker.
Indeed. And do you know it is current suns leaking it? Maybe he got it from McDo, to show that he had a plan for PG.
I thought it was known McD wanted SGA but Sarver wanted Bridges. And regardless, he took Bridges and still signed Ariza. He could've put that money towards a PG.
Fair point. Which PGs signed deals in that range, that we could have got? I know it was only 5 months ago, but I can't remember many PGs changing teams. Maybe Parker.

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Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:11 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:30 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:31 am

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1068523826458198020

I know some here liked Frank during the draft but I've watched him a lot and he's not what we need. Not about a change of scenery,
I'm one of Frank's biggest supporters here, but I agree that he's not what we need right now. He would be great on a team with Booker / Doncic / and the guy Bender was supposed to be.
But what about his league leading assists? And how did I ever agree that it's going to take until 2025 for him to "get going" in your words?
I on't know what your deal is with that, but it's one sided.
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Watching Luka highlights, I wish we wouldn't have got the #1 pick so we could have went against the conventional norm and picked him 2nd or whatever. He's so good already and incredibly entertaining.

The painful highlights, for those that are interested in being punched in the gut:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/11/2 ... must-watch
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O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:27 am
Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:11 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:30 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:31 am

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1068523826458198020

I know some here liked Frank during the draft but I've watched him a lot and he's not what we need. Not about a change of scenery,
I'm one of Frank's biggest supporters here, but I agree that he's not what we need right now. He would be great on a team with Booker / Doncic / and the guy Bender was supposed to be.
But what about his league leading assists? And how did I ever agree that it's going to take until 2025 for him to "get going" in your words?
I on't know what your deal is with that, but it's one sided.
One sided? How do you mean?
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Once this gets ironed out, I bet our overall play becomes more efficient:

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Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:03 pm
Once this gets ironed out, I bet our overall play becomes more efficient:

:lol: :lol:
Corliss looks like he been doing such antics even as a player
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Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:49 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:27 am
Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:11 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:30 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:31 am

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1068523826458198020

I know some here liked Frank during the draft but I've watched him a lot and he's not what we need. Not about a change of scenery,
I'm one of Frank's biggest supporters here, but I agree that he's not what we need right now. He would be great on a team with Booker / Doncic / and the guy Bender was supposed to be.
But what about his league leading assists? And how did I ever agree that it's going to take until 2025 for him to "get going" in your words?
I on't know what your deal is with that, but it's one sided.
One sided? How do you mean?
That comment I made seems to mean a lot more to you than to me.
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Wormwood wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:44 am
Nikitilina has been awful. Like, worse than Canaan, Okobo, and Melton by every statistical measure I can find. Just say no. You can find G-League players who are better.
Agree. Suns don't need another crapshoot project on the roster.
See if Okobo keeps evolving. See if Melton can develop.
Crawford can mentor.

But no Niki. And no Fultz, either.

Tired of the revolving door of malfunctioning/tarnished assets.
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?

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LazarusLong wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:56 pm
Wormwood wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:44 am
Nikitilina has been awful. Like, worse than Canaan, Okobo, and Melton by every statistical measure I can find. Just say no. You can find G-League players who are better.
Agree. Suns don't need another crapshoot project on the roster.
See if Okobo keeps evolving. See if Melton can develop.
Crawford can mentor.

But no Niki. And no Fultz, either.

Tired of the revolving door of malfunctioning/tarnished assets.
And their track record for being able to develop those project players isn't very reassuring.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:39 pm
Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:49 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:27 am
Superbone wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:11 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:30 am


I'm one of Frank's biggest supporters here, but I agree that he's not what we need right now. He would be great on a team with Booker / Doncic / and the guy Bender was supposed to be.
But what about his league leading assists? And how did I ever agree that it's going to take until 2025 for him to "get going" in your words?
I on't know what your deal is with that, but it's one sided.
One sided? How do you mean?
That comment I made seems to mean a lot more to you than to me.
Would you like to retract it?
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