Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Discussion of the league and of our favorite team.
User avatar
INFORMER
Posts: 8325
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:19 pm

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by INFORMER »

Xylus wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:35 pm
Ayton is really bad this game.
He is devastated by Canaan's departure.
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.

User avatar
specialsauce
Posts: 7640
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:45 pm

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by specialsauce »

Okobo has played well. I’m so happy Canaan is gone. Clearly it was a management move to force Igor to stop playing Canaan and I’m sure they felt that was the only way to force his hand.

Ayton is showing all of his warning signs in this game. Playing lazy, slow defensively, extremely timid and soft offensively. Honestly he shouldn’t be in this game down the stretch, Holmes should be in. Another sign that Igor has no sense and no balls.

User avatar
Xylus
Posts: 1566
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:19 pm

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by Xylus »

specialsauce wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:44 pm
Okobo has played well. I’m so happy Canaan is gone. Clearly it was a management move to force Igor to stop playing Canaan and I’m sure they felt that was the only way to force his hand.

Ayton is showing all of his warning signs in this game. Playing lazy, slow defensively, extremely timid and soft offensively. Honestly he shouldn’t be in this game down the stretch, Holmes should be in. Another sign that Igor has no sense and no balls.
Agreed that Ayton should be benched down the stretch. I'm also struggling to figure out why Ariza played 39 minutes tonight.

User avatar
INFORMER
Posts: 8325
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:19 pm

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by INFORMER »

Gotta love Sports Center highlighting plays where Boban is outplaying Ayton.
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.

User avatar
djy2j
Posts: 3318
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:10 am

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by djy2j »

Okobo was impressive. I liked his aggressiveness even more than his stat line. Next step is consistency.

Imagine if Ayton had the same motor as Harrell. He doesn't but just imagine.

I still don't get the stretches by Jackson where he fouls 3 times in 15 seconds. Infuriating.

This team has to lead the league in dumb plays. TJ stepping over the line while trying to inbound. Like cmon dude!

Ariza driving to the basket is an automatic turnover. Every. Single. Time.

Suns got abused by Boban. Maybe next time we can suit up Hamed Haddadi and have Clash of the Titans night.

I'm tired of losing.
The artist formerly known as Y2JJEDIPIMP on .net

"Just like Neal Armstrong I went to space and now I'm back..."

User avatar
The Bobster
Posts: 6673
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:04 pm
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by The Bobster »

Boban's per 36 minutes for his career - 23.1 pts, 14.8 reb, 57.2 FG%

His career PER of 27.8 puts him between Michael Jordan (27.9) and LeBron James (27.7), and ahead of Shaq (26.4), David Robinson (26.2) and Wilt Chamberlain (26.1).
Author of The Basketball Draft Fact Book: A History of Professional Basketball's College Drafts
Available from Scarecrow Press at - https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780810890695

User avatar
specialsauce
Posts: 7640
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:45 pm

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by specialsauce »

Xylus wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:49 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:44 pm
Okobo has played well. I’m so happy Canaan is gone. Clearly it was a management move to force Igor to stop playing Canaan and I’m sure they felt that was the only way to force his hand.

Ayton is showing all of his warning signs in this game. Playing lazy, slow defensively, extremely timid and soft offensively. Honestly he shouldn’t be in this game down the stretch, Holmes should be in. Another sign that Igor has no sense and no balls.
Agreed that Ayton should be benched down the stretch. I'm also struggling to figure out why Ariza played 39 minutes tonight.
Canaan is gone. Now I can’t wait for Dec 15 to unload Arizas dead weight so Igor can’t keep forcing him onto us. Should have seen more Jackson and Bridges tonight.

User avatar
Ring_Wanted
Posts: 5011
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:47 am

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by Ring_Wanted »

specialsauce wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:35 pm
Canaan is gone. Now I can’t wait for Dec 15 to unload Arizas dead weight so Igor can’t keep forcing him onto us. Should have seen more Jackson and Bridges tonight.
You have to be truly bad if you are playing 26mpg and starting 75% of the games yet you get released out of nowhere without the team even making a move to add someone to replace you (other than finally giving Okobo playing time).

Still think choosing him over Shaq was dumb.

User avatar
Shabazz
Posts: 7449
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:16 pm

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by Shabazz »

Gotta give props to Jackson. He's been much better and more under control lately. His early-season stretch was pretty concerning.

Okobo was a really nice bright spot. Like other's have asked, what took so long?

Holmes is just a delight. I was excited when we got him, but he's blown past my most optimistic expectations.

User avatar
Cap
Posts: 8719
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:08 pm

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by Cap »

Ring_Wanted wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:08 am
specialsauce wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:35 pm
Canaan is gone. Now I can’t wait for Dec 15 to unload Arizas dead weight so Igor can’t keep forcing him onto us. Should have seen more Jackson and Bridges tonight.
You have to be truly bad if you are playing 26mpg and starting 75% of the games yet you get released out of nowhere without the team even making a move to add someone to replace you (other than finally giving Okobo playing time).
And the news barely even registers with the team’s most obsessed fans.

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 34093
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: San Diego, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by Superbone »

Indy wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:49 pm
Get your jersey signed, Bone. Tell him Indy sent you. ;)

I expect some in-person commentary that we can't get from TV. If you don't have the Tapatalk app yet, get it since it makes it a lot easier to post from your phone.
Sorry, Indy. Just reading this for the first time. I had great seats but that arena is just too crowded. Not enough room to text!
"Be Legendary."

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 34093
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: San Diego, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by Superbone »

Xylus wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:35 pm
Ayton is really bad this game.
Yup, worst game of his career thus far. He needs to learn to hold the ball up high and also to make decisive moves before the defense can react.
"Be Legendary."

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 34093
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: San Diego, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by Superbone »

Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:36 pm
Ayton is soft. It’s gonna take til the end of the year or over the summer to figure it out.

How about JJ and Okobo? Great games for them.

Very good game from both of them. I think we found our starting point guard.
"Be Legendary."

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 34093
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: San Diego, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by Superbone »

Xylus wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:39 pm
48-29 rebounding advantage for the Clippers.

PF is a greater position of need than PG.
We are so much smaller than the Clippers. They had 3 big guys at all times. We just had Ayton and Holmes; never at the same time. Tough to compete when there are constant mismatches.
"Be Legendary."

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 34093
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: San Diego, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by Superbone »

Cap wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:58 am
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:08 am
specialsauce wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:35 pm
Canaan is gone. Now I can’t wait for Dec 15 to unload Arizas dead weight so Igor can’t keep forcing him onto us. Should have seen more Jackson and Bridges tonight.
You have to be truly bad if you are playing 26mpg and starting 75% of the games yet you get released out of nowhere without the team even making a move to add someone to replace you (other than finally giving Okobo playing time).
And the news barely even registers with the team’s most obsessed fans.
I expected to see a new thread. I didn't see any news prior to the game and was wondering why he wasn't with the team tonight. I was delighted with Okobo's play tonight. I was also delighted when I googled Canaan on the way home from the game to find out he had been waived.
"Be Legendary."

User avatar
UglyTruth
Posts: 1038
Joined: Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:25 am

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by UglyTruth »

Xylus wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:39 pm
48-29 rebounding advantage for the Clippers.

PF is a greater position of need than PG.

https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1067990483941486592

Ayton has to learn to box out if he wants to reach his full potential.

User avatar
ShelC
Posts: 12372
Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:00 am

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by ShelC »

I could tell from the start of the game that neither team was especially "up" for the game. The first few minutes were brutal as no one seemed engaged. We eventually snapped out of it, but I could tell Ayton didn't really show up to play. I don't know if it was Boban or the 2nd night of a back to back but someone needs to get on him and light a fire.

User avatar
LazarusLong
Posts: 3154
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:58 pm

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by LazarusLong »

Marjanovic looks like he's a bit trimmer, maybe losing 15-20 lbs to gain more agility.
Not that he's Kareem-like on the court, but he looks more mobile.
He no doubt learned some lessons from his stint with the Spurs and with the Pistons, get beat on by Drummond in practice with Detroit.
As EJ mentioned, he's become a slightly shorter version of Mark Eaton.
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?

User avatar
O_Gardino
Posts: 6627
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 12:47 pm
Location: Shreveport, LA

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by O_Gardino »

Superbone wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:05 am
Xylus wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:39 pm
48-29 rebounding advantage for the Clippers.

PF is a greater position of need than PG.
We are so much smaller than the Clippers. They had 3 big guys at all times. We just had Ayton and Holmes; never at the same time. Tough to compete when there are constant mismatches.
We ought to be able to outrun them, but we don't run this year.
The league needs heroes, villains... and clowns. -- Aztec Sunsfan

User avatar
UglyTruth
Posts: 1038
Joined: Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:25 am

Re: Game Day: Suns (4-16) @ Clippers (13-6), Wed 11/28/18

Post by UglyTruth »

O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:07 am
Superbone wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:05 am
Xylus wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:39 pm
48-29 rebounding advantage for the Clippers.

PF is a greater position of need than PG.
We are so much smaller than the Clippers. They had 3 big guys at all times. We just had Ayton and Holmes; never at the same time. Tough to compete when there are constant mismatches.
We ought to be able to outrun them, but we don't run this year.
It’s hard to run when you’re inbounding the ball each time instead of taking the rebound and running with that.

Post Reply