Game Day: Kings (20-20) @ Suns (9-32), Tues 1/8/19

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Re: Game Day: Kings (20-20) @ Suns (9-32), Tues 1/8/19

Post by Superbone » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:19 pm

Suns win! Suns win! Suns win!
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Re: Game Day: Kings (20-20) @ Suns (9-32), Tues 1/8/19

Post by Bucktastic365 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:20 pm

carey wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:11 pm
Bucktastic365 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:08 pm
Melton is a young Randy Brown
Ewww, don't see that at all.


I was thinking over the years of a defensive first, fifth(6th, 7th) option team first guy that could hit open shots(I know Melton's not there consistently yet), and I thought of Brown first.

What would be your historical comp?

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Re: Game Day: Kings (20-20) @ Suns (9-32), Tues 1/8/19

Post by Superbone » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:33 pm

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:44 pm
Oubre came to play early
As well as late. Easily his best game as a Sun.
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Post by Superbone » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:34 pm

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:05 pm
Another game, another 2nd half I will not watch. Neat.
Too bad for you if so.
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Post by Superbone » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:42 pm

Loved Bender's expression after the Oubre Jr. put back dunk:



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Post by Superbone » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:55 pm

The Suns almost had 5 players with at least 3 steals. Holmes (2), Oubre (3), Jackson (3), Bridges (4) and Melton (4).
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Re: Game Day: Kings (20-20) @ Suns (9-32), Tues 1/8/19

Post by Sad Suns Fan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:39 pm

Superbone wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:34 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:05 pm
Another game, another 2nd half I will not watch. Neat.
Too bad for you if so.
I tuned in, I can't help myself. Worth the watch for sure.
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Post by Superbone » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:44 pm

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Superbone wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:34 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:05 pm
Another game, another 2nd half I will not watch. Neat.
Too bad for you if so.
I tuned in, I can't help myself. Worth the watch for sure.
Thumbs up! I figured! :)
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Post by djy2j » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:47 pm

1-0 in the Quincy Acy era! :)
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Post by Superbone » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:15 am

djy2j wrote:1-0 in the Quincy Acy era! :)
LOL. I did really like his rebounding activity. He can teach our bigs a thing or two.
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Post by Gladiator » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:39 am

Really good hustling second half and a pretty good template for how they need to play.
Acy actually made a bit of a difference with his desperation - there was one missed FT that he and Holmes combined to get the offensive rebound and (from memory) we scored on the second chance. A really good example of never giving up on a play.
Ayton still plays within himself a lot but I liked how he went after the last missed FT by WCS - no way he wasn’t getting that one. Small steps...
We’ve had a few big comebacks that haven’t ended up in wins - nice to get the reward in this one. Now to not fall so far behind in the first place!!!!

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Post by Shabazz » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:00 am

I feel like Melton has at least 6 steals. He was everywhere.

On the flip-side, when Crawford goes into Carmelo-mode, he may be the worst player in the NBA. He's functional and even helpful when he plays pass-first and only shoots when it's called for. When he's forcing up contested mid-range jumpers after 14 crossover dribbles it just sucks the life out of the offense.
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Post by Xylus » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:15 am

It's time to give Troy Daniels more minutes. He needs to be out there with the 2nd unit and maybe close games out if he's hot. We need him taking shots away from Crawford.

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Post by Indy » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:35 am

agreed on how fun that 2nd half was, how crawford shouldn't get more than 3 shots a game, and playing Daniels more when we are struggling to find shots.

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Re: Game Day: Kings (20-20) @ Suns (9-32), Tues 1/8/19

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:16 am

I was a bad fan in this one. I watched part of it and started to see the same script, with the Suns falling behind and not trying their best. So I went and spent time with my kid instead. And then I missed the comeback. I'm glad we won but I wish we could just give a consistent effort.

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Post by Cap » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:38 am

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
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I was a bad fan in this one. I watched part of it and started to see the same script, with the Suns falling behind and not trying their best. So I went and spent time with my kid instead. And then I missed the comeback. I'm glad we won but I wish we could just give a consistent effort.
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Post by ShelC » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:57 am

Caught the first half which was a tale of two quarters. First quarter was solid, 2nd qtr we let it get away. Luckily we've been playing well in the 3rd qtr of late.

Melton is definitely intriguing. I like what I'm seeing from him even if he's not a traditional pass-first PG or a great shooter just yet. I think the game is slowing down a bit for him and the defensive potential has always been there. Dare I say he might be a better version of Brandon Knight? We may have our very own AASW.

We threw the ball to Ayton in the post a bunch of times during the 1st qtr and surprise - easy baskets! His baseline fadeaway has shades of Olajuwon/Ewing and is almost unguardable. This is what we need more of. I don't need super elaborate KG moves with headfakes, up and unders, etc. Just get him the ball on the block 8-10 ft away. He's too good to ignore down there. And please, enough with the entry passes from the top of the key. It's the worst angle to make an entry pass and is easy to defend. Plus, what is Ayton really going to do with the ball with his back to the basket in the middle of the paint. Low post play is all about angles and we suck at all of it.

Oubre's been a great addition and has a lot more offense than I initially thought.

Interesting that Holmes and Acy were getting time together...seems like Igor wants more size that can spread the floor upfront with the 2nd unit. Clearly he has no plans for Anderson or Bender. Acy isn't exactly a shooter but should keep defenses somewhat honest while still providing some rebounding and toughness inside.

Another pretty solid one from Jackson. He has some really good moments, and then does something dumb like coming down 1 on 3 and pulling up for a 26ft 3 with 22 on the shotclock. He needs to think the game better for better possessions.

In general, we need to do a better job rebounding. Our starting forwards combined for 4 rebounds, Mikal had none. Gotta do better there.

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Post by Superbone » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:03 am

Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:00 am
I feel like Melton has at least 6 steals. He was everywhere.

On the flip-side, when Crawford goes into Carmelo-mode, he may be the worst player in the NBA. He's functional and even helpful when he plays pass-first and only shoots when it's called for. When he's forcing up contested mid-range jumpers after 14 crossover dribbles it just sucks the life out of the offense.
He's also starting to get the ball stolen regularly when making his dribble moves.
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Post by Superbone » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:08 am

ShelC wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:57 am
Another pretty solid one from Jackson. He has some really good moments, and then does something dumb like coming down 1 on 3 and pulling up for a 26ft 3 with 22 on the shotclock. He needs to think the game better for better possessions.
Jackson took a really tough pull up jumper in traffic late in the game which he fortunately nailed as it kept us in the game at a critical juncture.
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Post by Superbone » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:21 am

djy2j wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:47 pm
1-0 in the Quincy Acy era! :)
We're also 1-0 to start the 2nd half of the season. :P
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