Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by Shabazz » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:38 am

How about the moron ref walking by and kicking Nurkic in the leg while he's lying on the ground?
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by Superbone » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:14 pm

Shabazz wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:38 am
How about the moron ref walking by and kicking Nurkic in the leg while he's lying on the ground?
They should have reviewed that in Secaucus.
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by Cap » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:56 pm

Superbone wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:14 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:38 am
How about the moron ref walking by and kicking Nurkic in the leg while he's lying on the ground?
They should have reviewed that in Secaucus.
“On review, the injury is reversed.”

* Nurkic gets up and walks to the free throw line *
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:04 pm

What do we think about the late-season surge of Trae Young? The Hawks were roundly bashed for the draft-day trade where they gave up Luka Doncic for Young and a future 1st from the Mavs. Does it look better now? What number of pick will that future 1st likely be?

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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by In2ition » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:26 pm

Wasn't Inf against anything to do with Trae?
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by INFORMER » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:38 pm

In2ition wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:26 pm
Wasn't Inf against anything to do with Trae?
Judge for yourself:
INFORMER wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:01 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:40 am
You're right, Westbrook did, but comparing Trae to Westbrook would be a mistake. Honestly, if you watched him play much, he is a mix of Steve Nash and Steph Curry and no where near a Westbrook type. Who wouldn't like that on your team?
If only it were that simple. If Young can't defend, can't limit his turnovers, and is a low percentage shooter at the NBA level, then it becomes very easy to not "like that on your team."
INFORMER wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:03 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:22 am

He's an inch shorter than Nash or Curry. I'd hardly call him the size of Ulis.

He doesn't need elite athleticism. Did Nash or Curry have it? He does have elite ball handling. Not being interested in him is your prerogative, but it's short-sighted in my view.
In2 is right on these points. Young's athleticism and ball-handling are non-issues.
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In2, you're killing me this offseason. First Trae Young, now John Wall? Absolutely killing me.
INFORMER wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 5:36 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:01 am
INFORMER wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 10:37 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 2:56 pm
I just have to trust McDonough and crew that they come to the best choice possible for the Suns on June 21st.
:lol:
It's funny because it's true. Hey, even you said you were encouraged by what McD said at the combine. I'll tell you right now that I'm not looking forward to draft day and seeing your big red F.
There is no way I could give the Suns an F this year. Even if they went with my least favorite prospects, like Bagley or Trae Young, at worst I would give that a D.
INFORMER wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:17 pm
In2ition wrote: I think Young spreads the floor, which relieves pressure on Booker, is an elite shooter and an elite ball handler with excellent to outstanding court vision.

I believe that the best of Ayton will be displayed in the NBA, as he has range outside the post, is good passer, elite athlete, rebounder, good free throw shooter, excellent footwork in the post, and I also believe that an era of a good center will come back and be valuable again.
At the NBA level, I don't think there will be anything elite about Young.

As far as your assessment of Ayton, I don't disagree that is what he could be. (although I don't think his athleticism is elite; it's very good, but elite is a bit of a hypebole) However, I also think Ayton could just turn into a solid big that puts up good numbers, but doesn't move the needle.
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by INFORMER » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:53 pm

23 points, 9 rebounds, 3 steals and 6 blocks, for Christian Wood tonight. Ugh.
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by specialsauce » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:02 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:53 pm
23 points, 9 rebounds, 3 steals and 6 blocks, for Christian Wood tonight. Ugh.
Who needs Christian Wood. We got some Mormon Wood!

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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by In2ition » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:17 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:25 pm
Zero interest in Trae Young.
This doesn't sound like you liked him.
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by Charlie Smithy! » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:24 pm

specialsauce wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:02 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:53 pm
23 points, 9 rebounds, 3 steals and 6 blocks, for Christian Wood tonight. Ugh.
Who needs Christian Wood. We got some Mormon Wood!
I've had that for 33 years; some things never quite go away.

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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by specialsauce » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:01 pm

Charlie Smithy! wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:24 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:02 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:53 pm
23 points, 9 rebounds, 3 steals and 6 blocks, for Christian Wood tonight. Ugh.
Who needs Christian Wood. We got some Mormon Wood!
I've had that for 33 years; some things never quite go away.
:lol:

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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by INFORMER » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:35 am

In2ition wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:17 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:25 pm
Zero interest in Trae Young.
This doesn't sound like you liked him.
Sorry, I didn't go all the way back to February. I was looking at the posts closer to the draft. I think April is as far back as I went. Clearly, I don't have your dedication. I wasn't crazy about him, and I had some serious concerns:
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:09 pm
Cap wrote:
INFORMER wrote:Zero interest in Trae Young.
Please explain.
I don't see a lot of value in adding a high volume shooting, defensive liability point guard. I don't think that moves the needle for the roster. In general, I don't think Trae Young is a transcendent talent.


Today, I don't have a huge problem with Young. He is a low percentage shooter, and he does turn the ball over a lot, but I think he can improve. I would say he has been better than Ayton in terms of being an impact player.

I didn't kill Atlanta for that move, and that's considering I thought Luka was the best player in the draft. It was a gamble for sure, but at least they got another lotto pick out of it. Plus, I didn't really see Luka as a good fit in Atlanta.
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by Split T » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:05 am

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:04 pm
What do we think about the late-season surge of Trae Young? The Hawks were roundly bashed for the draft-day trade where they gave up Luka Doncic for Young and a future 1st from the Mavs. Does it look better now? What number of pick will that future 1st likely be?
Gonna be the mavs pick this year, unless they jump into the top 4. Think it’s looking like 6-8 range.

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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by In2ition » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:07 am

INFORMER wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:35 am
In2ition wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:17 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:25 pm
Zero interest in Trae Young.
This doesn't sound like you liked him.
Sorry, I didn't go all the way back to February. I was looking at the posts closer to the draft. I think April is as far back as I went. Clearly, I don't have your dedication. I wasn't crazy about him, and I had some serious concerns:
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:09 pm
Cap wrote:
INFORMER wrote:Zero interest in Trae Young.
Please explain.
I don't see a lot of value in adding a high volume shooting, defensive liability point guard. I don't think that moves the needle for the roster. In general, I don't think Trae Young is a transcendent talent.


Today, I don't have a huge problem with Young. He is a low percentage shooter, and he does turn the ball over a lot, but I think he can improve. I would say he has been better than Ayton in terms of being an impact player.

I didn't kill Atlanta for that move, and that's considering I thought Luka was the best player in the draft. It was a gamble for sure, but at least they got another lotto pick out of it. Plus, I didn't really see Luka as a good fit in Atlanta.
I wasn't all that dedicated to finding that, haha. It took me all of 2 minutes in the search. I understand your thoughts on Young and they were correct in that it would be like that early in his career, but I think you discounted his positive change to how they play. They all feel like they get to eat, and ability to make everyone on the team better. I figured a Suns fan and one that watched Nash would have recognized this ability or potential for this ability, at least in the future. It's just that Trae was ahead of the curve, and it seemed obvious.
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by In2ition » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:28 am

INFORMER wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:53 pm
23 points, 9 rebounds, 3 steals and 6 blocks, for Christian Wood tonight. Ugh.
Yeah, this makes me sick. I thought this was a no-brainer to pick him up after summer league, let alone recently when he was let go and the Suns needed a pf, but apparently I misunderstood what the scouts were looking for.
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by O_Gardino » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:16 am

In2ition wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:28 am
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:53 pm
23 points, 9 rebounds, 3 steals and 6 blocks, for Christian Wood tonight. Ugh.
Yeah, this makes me sick. I thought this was a no-brainer to pick him up after summer league, let alone recently when he was let go and the Suns needed a pf, but apparently I misunderstood what the scouts were looking for.
We've found that scouting hasn't worked for us in the past. You can't win with players you scout. So we are going to take a different approach this year.
SELL THE TEAM
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by JeremyG » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:00 pm

https://www.nba.com/games/20190328/DALMIA#/boxscore

Dragic can still outplay Doncic. Are we sure we don't want him?

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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by carey » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:38 am

Interesting stuff in this article about the beat writers covering the Bucks: https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/3/28 ... -media-mvp

A guy from Australia self funded his attempt to become a beat writer. He moved to Milwaukee to cover the Bucks and is freelance selling his articles back in Australia.
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by carey » Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:12 pm

The L.A. Tankers have shelved LeBron for the rest of the season to allow his groin to fully heal.
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Re: Around the League: Week 24 3/25-3/31

Post by JeremyG » Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:37 pm

They've been winning too many games lately lol. 4-6 in their last 10.

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