Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19

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Post by LazarusLong » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:58 pm

If they draft Morant, the Suns would be wise to keep Crawford on the roster as a mentor.
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Post by JeremyG » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:01 pm

First player to score 50+ for 4 different teams.

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Post by The Bobster » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:02 pm

19-63, 3 more wins than the expansion year.
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Post by JeremyG » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:23 pm

Couldn't even get to 20 wins. I sure hope this is the low point.

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Post by djy2j » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:00 pm

Infuriating game to start then fun...then depressing.

No energy or effort or pride the first half. Just getting dicked down by the s*** Mavs...then Jamal Crawford happened. Holy s***.

When Crawford hit 30 the rest of the team was like oh s***, we better start playing. Pathetic effort by each player up until that point.

Amazing performance by Crawford. More impressive than Bookers 59 IMO because of the age factor.

I hope Crawford can transition to a coaching role next year but hel probably still want to play.

The rest of tonight’s team... I hope only Bridges is back from that group. I’ve seen enough of the loser play and attitude from the rest.

Bender got absolutely rolled by Dirk and anyone else and refused to attack him on offense. Not what I need to see from a guy fighting for his NBA career.

Josh and his 17 technicals can go f*** off somewhere else next season. He’s not good enough to warrant that many. He’s shown he’s not a winner.

The others just have accepted losing without putting up much of a fight so they are all replaceable and I hope they are.

Another gloomy season in the books. That should tide me over until October and if they f*** up the off-season then probably longer
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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19

Post by specialsauce » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:32 pm

djy2j wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:00 pm
Infuriating game to start then fun...then depressing.

No energy or effort or pride the first half. Just getting dicked down by the s*** Mavs...then Jamal Crawford happened. Holy s***.

When Crawford hit 30 the rest of the team was like oh s***, we better start playing. Pathetic effort by each player up until that point.

Amazing performance by Crawford. More impressive than Bookers 59 IMO because of the age factor.

I hope Crawford can transition to a coaching role next year but hel probably still want to play.

The rest of tonight’s team... I hope only Bridges is back from that group. I’ve seen enough of the loser play and attitude from the rest.

Bender got absolutely rolled by Dirk and anyone else and refused to attack him on offense. Not what I need to see from a guy fighting for his NBA career.

Josh and his 17 technicals can go f*** off somewhere else next season. He’s not good enough to warrant that many. He’s shown he’s not a winner.

The others just have accepted losing without putting up much of a fight so they are all replaceable and I hope they are.

Another gloomy season in the books. That should tide me over until October and if they f*** up the off-season then probably longer
I would agree with this post

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Post by Gladiator » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:53 pm

Amazing effort by Crawford, well done to him.
Also a 39yo being the lone bright spot to finish the season seems somehow appropriate

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Post by Shabazz » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:12 pm

Good season, fellas. Remember how it started with that first game against Dallas and we were all so hopeful? And then like 3 games later we all knew we were in for another turd of a year?

Props to all of us that toughed it out.
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Post by Nodack » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:10 am

Jamal came out and hit and I was like, cool. Then he went cold and I started cursing the Jamal show. Then he lit it up and I started cheering the Jamal show. Fans are so fickle. At least he made an otherwise depressing game interesting.

Another year ends without being in the playoffs. I dare not guess what happens in the offseason. We know what they need. They know what they need. Ayton and Booker and future All Stars if they ever make the playoffs. We have some really good pieces already. I might think about being part of that if I am a free agent PG or PF looking for a good home. We have some chips and a good draft pick coming. Git’er done.

I predict a 40 win season next year and squeak into the playoffs the year after that.

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Post by LazarusLong » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:08 am

Jamal Crawford’s 51-point game last night marked only the eighth time in NBA history that teammates scored 50 or more points in the same season. Of note: the 61-62 Lakers had three players score 50 that season … Elgin Baylor, Rudy LaRusso and Jerry West.

Crawford is the oldest player to score 50 or more points. He is one of only 29 players in NBA history to score 50 or more at least four times. (Booker is one of 37 to do so three times.) And, as mentioned elsewhere, Crawford is the only player to do it for four different teams.

Tom Chambers scored 50 twice for the Suns. Other Suns with 50-point games: Tony Delk, Cliff Robinson, Amare’ Stoudemire and Charles Barkley (playoffs).

Devin Booker (twice) and Crawford scored 50 points this season for the Suns. Of note: the 88-89 Suns had four players score 40 or more points … Tom Chambers, Armen Gilliam, Eddie Johnson and Kevin Johnson.
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Post by Indy » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:44 am

LazarusLong wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:08 am
Jamal Crawford’s 51-point game last night marked only the eighth time in NBA history that teammates scored 50 or more points in the same season. Of note: the 61-62 Lakers had three players score 50 that season … Elgin Baylor, Rudy LaRusso and Jerry West.

Crawford is the oldest player to score 50 or more points. He is one of only 29 players in NBA history to score 50 or more at least four times. (Booker is one of 37 to do so three times.) And, as mentioned elsewhere, Crawford is the only player to do it for four different teams.

Tom Chambers scored 50 twice for the Suns. Other Suns with 50-point games: Tony Delk, Cliff Robinson, Amare’ Stoudemire and Charles Barkley (playoffs).

Devin Booker (twice) and Crawford scored 50 points this season for the Suns. Of note: the 88-89 Suns had four players score 40 or more points … Tom Chambers, Armen Gilliam, Eddie Johnson and Kevin Johnson.
The most amazing stat to me in all of that was that Armen scored 40. 1988 was the first year I really started to follow the team more than casually, and I just don't remember him being such a scoring threat.

So I had to look it up.

He scored more than 30 points a total of 9 times in his 13 year career.

About the game he scored 41:

Box score is here: https://www.basketball-reference.com/bo ... 60PHO.html

* Suns beat the Blazers by 7, 132 to 125
* Armen scored 41 on 26 shots.
* The Suns only played 8 guys
* We took 1 three all game (Majerle made it)
* Our backcourt (KJ, Horny, Majerle) combined for 28 assists.
* Jeff went 3-10 in the game. (I now need to look up how many games that guy took 10 shots with zero 3PA and didn't make at least 4.)

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Post by Indy » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:47 am

So to answer that last question on Jeff, out of his 1077 games played, he did that (appropriately) 14 times.

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Post by LazarusLong » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:58 am

Gilliam was a solid half-court player, but Cotton's up-tempo style was not conducive to Armon/Armen's success.
Plus he and Chambers did not play well together.
They tried to use Gilliam as a center, but he was MIA on defense.
So he was traded to Charlotte for Kurt Rambis, a prototypical dirt worker who didn't need the ball (welcome on a team loaded with scorers).
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Post by Shabazz » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:20 pm

Superbone wrote:
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I have one thing to say to Dragan Bender. DUNK the damn ball!!! You’re 7 feet one inches tall!!! <Kinison yell goes here>
I just want to note what a positive step this is from last season, where you would have been Kinison yelling "SHOOT the damn ball!!!" His aggressiveness on offense took a big leap forward this year. It's a real shame his shot abandoned him.

Did you know he led the team in FG% at the rim? 74.7%! Last season he was 20% worse.
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Post by INFORMER » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:47 pm

In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:58 pm
It really makes me wonder how hurt these guys are. They didn't even make it to the last game to cheer on the guys. I don't like that or think it was a good decision.
Yeah, that is sad.
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Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:10 am

Good riddance to this garbage season.

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Post by Indy » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:08 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:47 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:58 pm
It really makes me wonder how hurt these guys are. They didn't even make it to the last game to cheer on the guys. I don't like that or think it was a good decision.
Yeah, that is sad.
Even EJ commented on it during the telecast.

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Post by In2ition » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:17 pm

Indy wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:08 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:47 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:58 pm
It really makes me wonder how hurt these guys are. They didn't even make it to the last game to cheer on the guys. I don't like that or think it was a good decision.
Yeah, that is sad.
Even EJ commented on it during the telecast.
Seriously, all of them seemed ok when they walked up in their Exit meetings and Booker made the trip to Miami to see Wade's last game and party with him afterwards, but none of them were good enough to go to Dallas to cheer on the guys that actually pushed to play? This seems odd to me.
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Post by Indy » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:21 pm

In2ition wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:17 pm
Indy wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:08 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:47 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:58 pm
It really makes me wonder how hurt these guys are. They didn't even make it to the last game to cheer on the guys. I don't like that or think it was a good decision.
Yeah, that is sad.
Even EJ commented on it during the telecast.
Seriously, all of them seemed ok when they walked up in their Exit meetings and Booker made the trip to Miami to see Wade's last game and party with him afterwards, but none of them were good enough to go to Dallas to cheer on the guys that actually pushed to play? This seems odd to me.
Exactly. It was a s*** move by them. Took a bit of a vacation instead of supporting their team.

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Re: Game Day: Suns (19-62) @ Mavericks (32-48), Tues 4/9/19

Post by Split T » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:33 pm

They didn’t go to Houston either...I think stayed back for treatment of injuries
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