Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Split T » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:54 pm

Superbone wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:43 pm
Good to see!

So everyone except our starting lineup and Baynes

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Indy » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:08 pm

Split T wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:54 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:43 pm
Good to see!

So everyone except our starting lineup and Baynes
Baynes and Rubio have some pretty good excuses.

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Split T » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:55 pm

Indy wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:08 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:54 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:43 pm
Good to see!

So everyone except our starting lineup and Baynes
Baynes and Rubio have some pretty good excuses.
They do. Is Croatia in the World Cup? What is Saric up to this summer?

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Superbone » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:23 pm

Indy wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:08 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:54 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:43 pm
Good to see!

So everyone except our starting lineup and Baynes
Baynes and Rubio have some pretty good excuses.
Yeah, they're a little busy. Oubre was seen over there too.
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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Indy » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:14 am

Split T wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:55 pm
Indy wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:08 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:54 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:43 pm
Good to see!

So everyone except our starting lineup and Baynes
Baynes and Rubio have some pretty good excuses.
They do. Is Croatia in the World Cup? What is Saric up to this summer?
I think they are out of it now, and I didn't see him on the roster anyway.

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Pips » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:02 am

No Croatian on WC, no info of where is Dario...

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Superbone » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:19 am

Where's Dario?

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by carey » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:56 pm

Any Suns news lately? Rubio has had a great world tournament.
Go Suns!

Og Snus!

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by carey » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:17 am

carey wrote:Any Suns news lately? Rubio has had a great world tournament.
Guess not. Lol.
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Og Snus!

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Superbone » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:35 am

carey wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:17 am
carey wrote:Any Suns news lately? Rubio has had a great world tournament.
Guess not. Lol.
There's a whole thread about Rubio and another about the World Cup.
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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Cap » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:45 am

carey wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:17 am
carey wrote:Any Suns news lately? Rubio has had a great world tournament.
Guess not. Lol.
The general rule about Suns news is, if carey didn’t post it, it didn’t happen.
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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Split T » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:57 am

Here’s a thought, and I’m not saying we’ll be better than the spurs, but based on players alone, which roster would you rather have?

Booker or Derozan?
Ayton or Aldridge?
Saric or Gay?
Rubio or Murray?
Bridges or White?
Oubre or Carroll?
Johnson or Mills?
Baynes or Poeltl?

It’s pretty even from a talent standpoint, especially if Ayton takes a leap.

Of course this is without considering coaching, chemistry, continuity, etc.

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by JCSunsfan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:10 am

Split T wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:57 am
Here’s a thought, and I’m not saying we’ll be better than the spurs, but based on players alone, which roster would you rather have?

Booker or Derozan?
Ayton or Aldridge?
Saric or Gay?
Rubio or Murray?
Bridges or White?
Oubre or Carroll?
Johnson or Mills?
Baynes or Poeltl?

It’s pretty even from a talent standpoint, especially if Ayton takes a leap.

Of course this is without considering coaching, chemistry, continuity, etc.
Adding a facilitating pg is like oiling a rusted lock. It can make a world of difference.

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by In2ition » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:57 pm

I thought this was interesting. Let me know what you think about some of the stats at the end of the article, about post-up possessions and paint touches.
https://fansided.com/2019/09/16/25-unde ... n-suns-25/
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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Seas

Post by Nodack » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:03 am

“Ayton quietly put together one of the best debut seasons in NBA history for a big man, becoming one of just seven rookies to ever average at least 16 points and 10 rebounds per game on 57 percent true shooting. He also posted the highest field goal percentage ever (58.5 percent) among rookies averaging a double-double.

Ranking first in field goal percentage, double-doubles, rebounds and dunks among last year’s rookies, as well as second in win shares, fourth in scoring and blocks, eighth in steals and ninth in assists, Ayton became one of 12 rookies in the lottery era to post at least 15 points and 10 rebounds per game. Nine of the previous 11 won Rookie of the Year.”

People have talked about Ayton as if he was a bust. He was a bad azz. He definitely some weaknesses such as his defense and is a little soft around the basket offensively. He is a giant intimidating physical man. I think he has the tools to become great. Time will tell. He wasn’t a bust. Not even close. People just expected him to be Jesus or at least Moses.

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by SDC » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:28 am

ayton will go 60/80/20ppg next season

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Superbone » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:22 am

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Seas

Post by Indy » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:07 am

Nodack wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:03 am
“Ayton quietly put together one of the best debut seasons in NBA history for a big man, becoming one of just seven rookies to ever average at least 16 points and 10 rebounds per game on 57 percent true shooting. He also posted the highest field goal percentage ever (58.5 percent) among rookies averaging a double-double.

Ranking first in field goal percentage, double-doubles, rebounds and dunks among last year’s rookies, as well as second in win shares, fourth in scoring and blocks, eighth in steals and ninth in assists, Ayton became one of 12 rookies in the lottery era to post at least 15 points and 10 rebounds per game. Nine of the previous 11 won Rookie of the Year.”

People have talked about Ayton as if he was a bust. He was a bad azz. He definitely some weaknesses such as his defense and is a little soft around the basket offensively. He is a giant intimidating physical man. I think he has the tools to become great. Time will tell. He wasn’t a bust. Not even close. People just expected him to be Jesus or at least Moses.
I haven't heard anyone here (or in national media) say he was a bust. Plenty have said he wasn't the best player in the draft. And plenty have said his defense was just plain awful (for any player, much less the #1 pick in the draft that is 7-1 with great feet and athleticism). The stat I saw said our opponent shot 7% better at the rim when he was in the game. That probably puts him in the bottom 5th percentile of all players in the game.

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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by In2ition » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:57 pm

If anyone likes listening to podcasts, the Dunc'd On podcast most recently had the Suns overview with Michael Schwartz was really good. It was a breath of fresh air to have a guy that ACTUALLY knows what they are talking about with regards to the Suns on a podcast other than Suns podcasts.
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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Post by Superbone » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:23 pm

https://www.nba.com/suns/press-release/ ... mance-team
The Phoenix Suns have announced the club’s sports medicine and performance team, naming Brady Howe as Senior Director of Player Health and Performance, adding David Crewe as Director of Medical Services/Head Athletic Trainer, retaining Daniel Bove as Director of Performance, adding Adam Loiacono as Director of Rehabilitation, Cory Schlesinger as Head Strength and Conditioning Coach, Frank Adams as Assistant Athletic Trainer, Jeff Dolan as Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach, Kohei Tamagawa as Sport Scientist/Assistant Strength Coach and Amy Atmore as Performance Therapist.

“I’m excited to surround our players with a diverse and dynamic performance staff where every effort revolves around comprehensive player care,” said General Manager James Jones. “The depth of knowledge and expertise will offer our players the tools and support to perform at an elite level while maintaining their health, and will serve as a great complement to our coaching staff.”
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