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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 1:35 pm
by Indy
Superbone wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:13 pm
It sounds like we're going to trade Josh Jackson but if he stays, Monty Williams might be the best thing that's ever happened for him.
Why? Does he know how to get out of cuffs?

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 1:45 pm
by In2ition
Indy wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:35 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:13 pm
It sounds like we're going to trade Josh Jackson but if he stays, Monty Williams might be the best thing that's ever happened for him.
Why? Does he know how to get out of cuffs?
Magic was one of his little known talents. I think it was what put him over the top for McD.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 2:09 pm
by Marty [Mori Chu]
Why trade him now? His value couldn't be lower.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 2:16 pm
by Split T
Because it’s not gonna get higher and we’d have to commit to a 9 million dollar 4th year before we see him play again.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 2:17 pm
by Indy
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 2:09 pm
Why trade him now? His value couldn't be lower.
you have just doomed us all. I think this might be the biggest call for a 'hold my beer' moment for Josh.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:22 pm
by JeremyG
Gambo says the Suns will go after Kyrie Irving this summer.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:30 pm
by ShelC
Whhhhyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:33 pm
by carey
ShelC wrote:Whhhhyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Also... how???

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:36 pm
by JeremyG
carey wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 2:33 pm
ShelC wrote:Whhhhyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Also... how???
They can easily create additional cap space. Trade #6 for a future first, stretch Johnson, maybe dump Warren. Maybe send some salary back to Boston in a sign-and-trade.

Gambo also said he doesn’t expect them to actually land Kyrie.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:39 pm
by carey
Stop saying easily. It can be done but not easily unless we want less than 50 cents on the dollar for Warren and the pick.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:41 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 2:30 pm
Whhhhyyyyyyyyyyyy.
He would be an upgrade.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:44 pm
by JeremyG
carey wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 2:39 pm
Stop saying easily. It can be done but not easily unless we want less than 50 cents on the dollar for Warren and the pick.
If we’re getting Kyrie, I am saying we would be willing to give Warren away for literally nothing (let a team absorb his cap hit). Maybe get a draft pick back. Or trade Warren to Boston in a sign-and-trade for Kyrie.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:48 pm
by ShelC
I guess "going after" and "getting a meeting with a star who used to be a teammate of James Jones but won't be signing with us and is just taking a meeting out of respect for Jones" are kind of the same thing.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:59 pm
by carey
ShelC wrote:I guess "going after" and "getting a meeting with a star who used to be a teammate of James Jones but won't be signing with us and is just taking a meeting out of respect for Jones" are kind of the same thing.
Basically.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 3:02 pm
by Split T
If Kyrie wants to commit to signing here long term, I’ll take him. Can’t imagine he wants to come here though...will most likely come to nothing.

And the easiest way to make the space would be to renounce Oubre and stretch Tyler.

Next easiest way would be a sign and trade. Send Tyler and Warren for him. Probably have to throw in a pick.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 3:31 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Kyrie Irving will not be playing for the Suns next season.

That's the extent of the energy I will spend thinking and typing about it.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 4:58 pm
by Shabazz
I really hope all of this talk of us not pursuing Conley is just a smokescreen. He's a perfect on-court and off-court fit for us and I don't think there's such a strong market for him. Utah would be smart to target him as well.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:39 pm
by Drewsprocket
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 3:31 pm
Kyrie Irving will not be playing for the Suns next season.

That's the extent of the energy I will spend thinking and typing about it.
Lmao. Agreed. Not. Happening.

My rational PG wishlist includes Conley at the top.
Rubio, Ball, or Rozier I could live with and think they could make the suns better.

Kemba is another fantasy.

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:56 pm
by carey
We sign Darren Collison for 3/$30M. We trade Bumpy with a first or two for a PF upgrade. We keep our draft pick and select Cam Reddish who drops to 6. We re-sign Oubre. We trade Warren and Jackson for a quality 6th man scorer like Lou Williams but I am not sure who is available. Re-sign Holmes.

Collison-Booker-Oubre-PF upgrade-Ayton

Okobo/Melton-Bridges-Reddish-Holmes

Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:55 pm
by Split T
I wouldn’t do more than 2 years for Collison.