Around the League: The Off-season

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This sucks. One of my favorite players to watch is now on the Lakers.
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https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1140085647543193601

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Could be real good if the lakers crash and burn post Lebron. Though they should still have AD to build around.

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With lottery odds flattening, it really adds some more spice to the mix.

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Split T wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:48 pm
Lakers will be very good and probably the favorite for the title. Have space to fill out the team as well. They could go after a max guy like Kemba or they could just split it up between multiple players and build an actual roster. They will need some guards that can shoot.
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Had we not so badly botched the '16 and '17 drafts it could have easily been us trading for AD.

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The Pelicans just set themselves up with almost a decade's worth of draft assets. That was an amazing trade for them. You have to figure they're going to be good in a few years if they just score a hit on a few of their picks.

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INFORMER wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:14 pm

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1140085647543193601

Woah, that's an amazing haul. The Pels control the Lakers picks for the next 7 yrs. If the Lakers get a season ending injury to LeBron or AD, it all topples down.
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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:13 am
The Pelicans just set themselves up with almost a decade's worth of draft assets. That was an amazing trade for them. You have to figure they're going to be good in a few years if they just score a hit on a few of their picks.
I have to say after seeing the quality of picks, I take back what I said about the deal. Essentially all unprotected

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Can someone plz explain to me how the Lakers are the favourites ?
Is Pelinka all of a sudden competent ?
As shown throughout the playoffs n finals, depth is very important and that roster is going to need some shrewd additions to be balanced.
I just expect the usual, Bron and another star who just take turns on offense, team D avg if not bad and same for shooting. The Others being thrown under the bus by all star for not contributing enough
If it was Griffin who was filling out the roster I would be more nervous
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In2ition wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:36 am
INFORMER wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:14 pm

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1140085647543193601

Woah, that's an amazing haul. The Pels control the Lakers picks for the next 7 yrs. If the Lakers get a season ending injury to LeBron or AD, it all topples down.
I have a feeling it's going to be a marvelous dumpster fire and I look forward to it.

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bajanguy008 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:26 pm
Can someone plz explain to me how the Lakers are the favourites ?
Is Pelinka all of a sudden competent ?
As shown throughout the playoffs n finals, depth is very important and that roster is going to need some shrewd additions to be balanced.
I just expect the usual, Bron and another star who just take turns on offense, team D avg if not bad and same for shooting. The Others being thrown under the bus by all star for not contributing enough
If it was Griffin who was filling out the roster I would be more nervous

We’ll see how they fill out the roster, but it’s hard to mess up Lebron/AD. Kuzma will be a very nice piece as well.

They’ll have somewhere between 24-32 million to spend. Assuming they get 32, spend 4.5 to keep Reggie Bullock’s cap hold. Then just add 4-5 mid level guys with that space(Beverley, Collison, Curry, Bogdonovich, Ross, Green, Dedmon, Looney, etc) and you’ve got a pretty solid team. Of course they may spend it all on kemba and then have to fill the roster with minimum contracts.

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I liked this TrueHoop article about leg injuries (like Durant and Klay's) and recent advancements in training to avoid them.

https://www.truehoop.com/p/shooting-from-the-hip

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:27 pm
I liked this TrueHoop article about leg injuries (like Durant and Klay's) and recent advancements in training to avoid them.

https://www.truehoop.com/p/shooting-from-the-hip
A few other notables -

Dick Barnett, NYK - Feb, 1967
Larry Costello, PHI - Dec, 1967 (career ending)
Luke Jackson, PHI - Dec, 1968
Bob Rule, SEA - Oct, 1970
Eddie Miles, BAL - Feb, 1971
Gail Goodrich, NOJ - Jan, 1977
Nate Archibald, BUF - Oct, 1977
Phil Smith, GSW - Feb, 1979
Kevin Porter, WAS - Oct, 1981
Brian Taylor, SDC - Feb, 1982 (career ending)
Calvin Natt, DEN - Oct, 1986
Norm Nixon, SDC - Nov, 1987
Gene Banks, CHI - Jun, 1987 (career ending)
Alton Lister, GSW - Nov, 1989
Jeff Ruland, PHI - Jan, 1992
Sam Vincent, BOS - Oct, 1992 (career ending)
Stanley Roberts, LAC - Oct, 1994
David Benoit, UTH - Oct, 1996
Derrick McKey, IND - Apr, 1997
Mario Chalmers, MEM - Mar, 2016
Sheldon Mac, WAS - Oct, 2917 (career ending?)

Jackson, Rule, Miles, Goodrich, Archibald, Smith, Taylor, Natt, Nixon, Banks, Ruland, Vincent, Benoit and McKey were never the same players as they were before their injuries.
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Split T wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:08 pm
I have a feeling this might be happening. With Duane Rankin reporting us going after Deandre Hunter, it would fit that we feel confident about pg in free agency. Russell can easily tell Booker he wants to come here and Booker passes that message along. We still have to clear the cap space, but that can be done fairly easily if need be.
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Split T wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:48 pm
Lakers will be very good and probably the favorite for the title. Have space to fill out the team as well. They could go after a max guy like Kemba or they could just split it up between multiple players and build an actual roster. They will need some guards that can shoot.
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The Bobster wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:32 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:27 pm
I liked this TrueHoop article about leg injuries (like Durant and Klay's) and recent advancements in training to avoid them.

https://www.truehoop.com/p/shooting-from-the-hip
A few other notables -

Dick Barnett, NYK - Feb, 1967
Larry Costello, PHI - Dec, 1967 (career ending)
Luke Jackson, PHI - Dec, 1968
Bob Rule, SEA - Oct, 1970
Eddie Miles, BAL - Feb, 1971
Gail Goodrich, NOJ - Jan, 1977
Nate Archibald, BUF - Oct, 1977
Phil Smith, GSW - Feb, 1979
Kevin Porter, WAS - Oct, 1981
Brian Taylor, SDC - Feb, 1982 (career ending)
Calvin Natt, DEN - Oct, 1986
Norm Nixon, SDC - Nov, 1987
Gene Banks, CHI - Jun, 1987 (career ending)
Alton Lister, GSW - Nov, 1989
Jeff Ruland, PHI - Jan, 1992
Sam Vincent, BOS - Oct, 1992 (career ending)
Stanley Roberts, LAC - Oct, 1994
David Benoit, UTH - Oct, 1996
Derrick McKey, IND - Apr, 1997
Mario Chalmers, MEM - Mar, 2016
Sheldon Mac, WAS - Oct, 2917 (career ending?)

Jackson, Rule, Miles, Goodrich, Archibald, Smith, Taylor, Natt, Nixon, Banks, Ruland, Vincent, Benoit and McKey were never the same players as they were before their injuries.
Loy Vaught also ruptured his Achilles. He was a defensive stud beforehand, but never really recovered either. Achilles injuries are bad. Durant's value is in deep trouble, and he's unlikely to be dominant again.

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Go Suns!

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carey wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:58 am
Interesting article on the Rox.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/269 ... ds-rockets
I'm surprised the Rockets don't just run it back, with whatever tweaks they can make to help the roster. They came within a hair's breadth of beating GSW again, and now the Warriors are the walking wounded and likely out of title contention. Why wouldn't the Rockets want one more shot at making the Finals? They have as good a shot as anybody. I get that their roster and coaching staff is imperfect, but what current Western team can't say the same? One more run, guys, one more run.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:28 am
carey wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:58 am
Interesting article on the Rox.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/269 ... ds-rockets
I'm surprised the Rockets don't just run it back, with whatever tweaks they can make to help the roster. They came within a hair's breadth of beating GSW again, and now the Warriors are the walking wounded and likely out of title contention. Why wouldn't the Rockets want one more shot at making the Finals? They have as good a shot as anybody. I get that their roster and coaching staff is imperfect, but what current Western team can't say the same? One more run, guys, one more run.
Yeah,Rockets shouldn't panic. They should be smart in what they need to fix. How about McD focus on boxing out each possession? They got killed when they consistently stopped boxing out and got killed off of second, third, and fourth chances.
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