Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by Shabazz » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:54 pm

In2ition wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:39 pm
Save it for a day when they want to buy a draft pick themselves?
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by JeremyG » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:16 pm

Amin Elhassan just told Burns and Gambo that the Pacers thought it was a joke when the Suns called and offered Warren plus #32 for cash. Then when they realized it was a serious offer, they realized they had to jump at it immediately and get it done before the Suns realized their mistake!

So I guess at the least they didn’t have to include a pick.

He also said the Suns could have gotten a pick back for Warren at the trade deadline, instead of giving up a pick to get rid of him.

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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by AmareIsGod » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:19 pm

Speculation. That's all these people do these days. He doesn't work for the Pacers or the Suns so he has no idea. This stuff is getting pathetic.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:44 pm

Amin Elhassan's go-to move is s*** on the Suns. He's had plenty of opportunities, but he also goes to that well a bit too often to always believe him.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by In2ition » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:49 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:44 pm
Amin Elhassan's go-to move is s*** on the Suns. He's had plenty of opportunities, but he also goes to that well a bit too often to always believe him.
I get crapping on Sarver, but why on James Jones, Jeff Bower or Monty Williams? I don't think anyone that makes decisions other than Sarver is even with the Suns anymore since he was with the Suns.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by ShelC » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:04 pm

I just think there was an urgency from the FO to move on and rebuild the roster.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by In2ition » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:07 pm

Maybe even they thought his value was worse than what everyone else thought. That's a change. I don't know if it's better or worse.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:19 pm

In2ition wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:49 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:44 pm
Amin Elhassan's go-to move is s*** on the Suns. He's had plenty of opportunities, but he also goes to that well a bit too often to always believe him.
I get crapping on Sarver, but why on James Jones, Jeff Bower or Monty Williams? I don't think anyone that makes decisions other than Sarver is even with the Suns anymore since he was with the Suns.
You answered your own question. Think of it in the same light as any other business, if you're unsatisfied as a customer would you use the same service again knowing that it's still under the same ownership despite a change in management? Everything begins and ends with Sarver.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by JCSunsfan » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:14 pm

JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:16 pm
Amin Elhassan just told Burns and Gambo that the Pacers thought it was a joke when the Suns called and offered Warren plus #32 for cash. Then when they realized it was a serious offer, they realized they had to jump at it immediately and get it done before the Suns realized their mistake!

So I guess at the least they didn’t have to include a pick.

He also said the Suns could have gotten a pick back for Warren at the trade deadline, instead of giving up a pick to get rid of him.
I don't believe this for a second.

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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by INFORMER » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:38 pm

Of course what Amin is saying can't be true; it would mean the Suns don't know what they're doing, and we all know that can't be true.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by AmareIsGod » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:41 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:38 pm
Of course what Amin is saying can't be true; it would mean the Suns don't know what they're doing, and we all know that can't be true.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by INFORMER » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:44 pm

This really isn't an issue of optimism or pessimism.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by Superbone » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:58 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:38 pm
Of course what Amin is saying can't be true; it would mean the Suns don't know what they're doing, and we all know that can't be true.
All sarcasm this time buddy.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by AmareIsGod » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:31 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:44 pm
This really isn't an issue of optimism or pessimism.
Gotcha. It's truth.

But you're talking about our prior regime. Let's try and give this completely different and new one a chance.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by iLLmatic » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:53 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:38 pm
Of course what Amin is saying can't be true; it would mean the Suns don't know what they're doing, and we all know that can't be true.

I hate the Warren trade as much as the next guy but Amin always has been bitter towards the Suns.

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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by INFORMER » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:01 pm

AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:31 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:44 pm
This really isn't an issue of optimism or pessimism.
Gotcha. It's truth.
I'm not sure how you made that interpretation, but ok.

I don't care what Amin has to say, honestly. I'm not saying that what he said was true or false. It doesn't matter to me. I don't need him to validate whether or not the Warren trade was silly. I have a brain and I know a thing or two about basketball.

I am amused by the Luke Skywalker response this has prompted. Posters are hanging on for dear life defiantly spewing, "No. That's not true. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!"
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by Superbone » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:27 pm

As Garnett taught us, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:37 am

INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:01 pm
I don't care what Amin has to say, honestly. I'm not saying that what he said was true or false. It doesn't matter to me. I don't need him to validate whether or not the Warren trade was silly. I have a brain and I know a thing or two about basketball.

I am amused by the Luke Skywalker response this has prompted. Posters are hanging on for dear life defiantly spewing, "No. That's not true. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!"
I don't think anybody is saying that; your characterization is a straw man. I do see folks pointing out that Amin has a bit of an axe to grind with the Suns and has criticized our team many times in the recent past, and that might color his commentary on the Suns. I think that's a perfectly valid thing to point out. Amin in this case gives no evidence to support his claim, and it is not clear to me that he of all people would have access to any inside information like that about Indiana's decision-making process.

I get what you're saying that it is wrong to reflexively always defend our often inept front office from criticism. But I do think it's fine to point out when a commentator has a known bias or other reason to be skeptical of what we read.

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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by INFORMER » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:57 pm

Fair points.
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Re: Warren, #32 pick to Pacers for cash

Post by JeremyG » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:50 pm

The Pacers are literally laughing at us:


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