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Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:45 pm

Suns have signed Frank Kaminsky to a 2-year, $10m deal.


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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:47 pm

I liked Frank around the time he was drafted, but I got the sense that he has underperformed in his NBA career. Here are his stats. Last season he averaged 8.6 ppg on .463/.360/.738 splits, 3.5 rebounds, 0.3 blocks, 1.3 assists in 16.1 minutes/game.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... nfr01.html

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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by Split T » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:47 pm

Meh...I think I would have preferred Bender at the min. I guess he can shoot. I’m not expecting much playing time for him.

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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by SunsRIt » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:48 pm

I hope this doesn’t get in the way of resigning Oubre.

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Post by djy2j » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:48 pm

Didn’t we get what he brings to the table in Saric? I feel like defense and rebounding could have been addressed before this signing
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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:48 pm

Has anybody here seen more of Kaminsky lately? How is he on defense? He's a minus defender overall, right? And he's a bit slow and unathletic, right? How is his shooting? His numbers are a bit "meh" but I don't know how he looks to the eye test.

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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:48 pm

This is dumb. I’d rather keep Bender for a whole lot less.
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Post by jonh » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:49 pm

I'd also rather have Bender. That is a shame.
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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by Indy » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:49 pm

SunsRIt wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:48 pm
I hope this doesn’t get in the way of resigning Oubre.
It shouldn't since we are using the room exception for him.

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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by da_suns_fan » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:50 pm

Suns tried to trade up on draft night to get Kaminsky.

They failed and had to settle for Devin Booker (true story).

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Post by AmareIsGod » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:51 pm

A) Doesn't impact signing Oubre at all.

B) His numbers are pretty good in relatively limited minutes (16 minutes per game).

Not sure what the beef is. He's much better than Bender. People really have some odd love fest with Bender. He's SUCKED.
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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by AmareIsGod » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:51 pm

djy2j wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:48 pm
Didn’t we get what he brings to the table in Saric? I feel like defense and rebounding could have been addressed before this signing
One is our starter. The other is our backup. There's a difference.
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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by The Bobster » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:53 pm

If Bender had been more dependable offensively, I would have preferred him - but he wasn't giving us much on that end of the court despite having some obvious ability.
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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by wpmiller42 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:54 pm

Kaminsky isn't too bad. I think this a good pick-up. Solid, though unspectacular backup.

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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by AmareIsGod » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:54 pm

Kaminsky:

16 MPG | 3.5 Rebounds | 1.3 Assists | 8.6 PTS | 36% 3P% | 16.88 PER

Bender:

18 MPG | 4.0 Rebounds | 1.2 Assists | 5.0 PTS | 21.8% 3P% | 9.48 PER
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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:59 pm

My initial reaction is "meh." I think I would rather have signed Bender to a near-minimum deal. I know Bender's shooting was off last year, but I loved his defense. And he was young and seemed to me to be more likely to be loyal to the Suns and stay here for low money. But I don't hate this signing.

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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by The Bobster » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:59 pm

AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:54 pm
Kaminsky:

16 MPG | 3.5 Rebounds | 1.3 Assists | 8.6 PTS | 36% 3P% | 16.88 PER

Bender:

18 MPG | 4.0 Rebounds | 1.2 Assists | 5.0 PTS | 21.8% 3P% | 9.48 PER
The biggest differences being Bender's defense and his reluctance to shoot and lack of success when he did last year.

You just can't afford to have a stand-still shooter who is afraid to take open shots.
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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:00 pm

LOL


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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:03 pm

My other question is, was anybody else bidding for Kaminsky? Could we have gotten him for less?

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Re: Suns sign Frank Kaminsky

Post by da_suns_fan » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:07 pm

Why didnt they just keep Richaun Holmes?

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