Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by Split T » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:45 am

Hmm, I’ve actually seen some pretty nice moves to the hoop by Lecque. Why do you say he isn’t a scorer?

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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by ShelC » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:19 pm

In2ition wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:42 am
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:09 am
It's tough to say how Lecque projects. He's about 6-4 185, lightning quick and super bouncy but again, doesn't show much in terms of offensive versatility right now. Usually if a guy's a scorer, it's a natural thing and he can put the ball in the basket. Haven't seen that from Lecque thus far. What's Russell Westbrook without the offense?

I also kept a look out for Brandon Clarke, who wasn't much of a factor in last night's game. He's obviously athletic and made some nice passes out of the paint with good awareness of where his teammates were. I still think his size will be an issue as he looked smaller standing in the lane when FTs were being shot.
Wasn't he like +24 or +23 last night, after posting similar the game before?
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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by ShelC » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:20 pm

Split T wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:45 am
Hmm, I’ve actually seen some pretty nice moves to the hoop by Lecque. Why do you say he isn’t a scorer?
I'm talking more in terms of shooting and looking for his shot off the dribble. He's shown he can play in PnR and can beat his man off the dribble but I don't think he's looked for his shot off the bounce.

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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by Split T » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:01 pm

ShelC wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:20 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:45 am
Hmm, I’ve actually seen some pretty nice moves to the hoop by Lecque. Why do you say he isn’t a scorer?
I'm talking more in terms of shooting and looking for his shot off the dribble. He's shown he can play in PnR and can beat his man off the dribble but I don't think he's looked for his shot off the bounce.
Gotcha, ya his shot has a long ways to go. I’m not too worried about him not hunting shots right now. I’m cool just letting him develop slowly.

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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by In2ition » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:59 pm

ShelC wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:19 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:42 am
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:09 am
It's tough to say how Lecque projects. He's about 6-4 185, lightning quick and super bouncy but again, doesn't show much in terms of offensive versatility right now. Usually if a guy's a scorer, it's a natural thing and he can put the ball in the basket. Haven't seen that from Lecque thus far. What's Russell Westbrook without the offense?

I also kept a look out for Brandon Clarke, who wasn't much of a factor in last night's game. He's obviously athletic and made some nice passes out of the paint with good awareness of where his teammates were. I still think his size will be an issue as he looked smaller standing in the lane when FTs were being shot.
Wasn't he like +24 or +23 last night, after posting similar the game before?
Yup. I was wrong, he's awesome.
I don't know if you were wrong, as I thought the same thing when I watched. In fact, I thought Spalding was having more of an impact myself. I was surprised by the stat when I saw it, although I admittedly didn't watch the whole game.
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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by In2ition » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:02 pm

ShelC wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:20 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:45 am
Hmm, I’ve actually seen some pretty nice moves to the hoop by Lecque. Why do you say he isn’t a scorer?
I'm talking more in terms of shooting and looking for his shot off the dribble. He's shown he can play in PnR and can beat his man off the dribble but I don't think he's looked for his shot off the bounce.
I hope they have a good plan for him and develop him right. I like a lot of the things I've seen from him, but agree that he still has a long way to go. Just make sure he develops correctly.
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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by Split T » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:10 pm

In2ition wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:59 pm
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:19 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:42 am
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:09 am
It's tough to say how Lecque projects. He's about 6-4 185, lightning quick and super bouncy but again, doesn't show much in terms of offensive versatility right now. Usually if a guy's a scorer, it's a natural thing and he can put the ball in the basket. Haven't seen that from Lecque thus far. What's Russell Westbrook without the offense?

I also kept a look out for Brandon Clarke, who wasn't much of a factor in last night's game. He's obviously athletic and made some nice passes out of the paint with good awareness of where his teammates were. I still think his size will be an issue as he looked smaller standing in the lane when FTs were being shot.
Wasn't he like +24 or +23 last night, after posting similar the game before?
Yup. I was wrong, he's awesome.
I don't know if you were wrong, as I thought the same thing when I watched. In fact, I thought Spalding was having more of an impact myself. I was surprised by the stat when I saw it, although I admittedly didn't watch the whole game.
I didn’t watch the game at all, but plus/minus in a single game isn’t exactly a good indicator of who played well.

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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by In2ition » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:57 pm

Split T wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:10 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:59 pm
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:19 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:42 am
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:09 am
It's tough to say how Lecque projects. He's about 6-4 185, lightning quick and super bouncy but again, doesn't show much in terms of offensive versatility right now. Usually if a guy's a scorer, it's a natural thing and he can put the ball in the basket. Haven't seen that from Lecque thus far. What's Russell Westbrook without the offense?

I also kept a look out for Brandon Clarke, who wasn't much of a factor in last night's game. He's obviously athletic and made some nice passes out of the paint with good awareness of where his teammates were. I still think his size will be an issue as he looked smaller standing in the lane when FTs were being shot.
Wasn't he like +24 or +23 last night, after posting similar the game before?
Yup. I was wrong, he's awesome.
I don't know if you were wrong, as I thought the same thing when I watched. In fact, I thought Spalding was having more of an impact myself. I was surprised by the stat when I saw it, although I admittedly didn't watch the whole game.
I didn’t watch the game at all, but plus/minus in a single game isn’t exactly a good indicator of who played well.
2 games in a row, so we'll watch to see if it's a trend.
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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by Split T » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:03 pm

It’s also summer league, he’s 23, and was one of the best college basketball players in a long time. It shouldn’t be a surprise if he’s dominating summer league.

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Post by Flagrant Fowl » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:31 pm

I watched a fair bit of that game and I wouldn't say he dominated in any specific way. His +/- numbers are good, but like Shel said, he looked small for his position and guys like Lecque and Spalding weren't afraid to go at him.

I still like him and think his greatest assets will always be athleticism and intelligence, but he'll need to develop at least one reliable skill to be an impact starter for a good team.
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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by carey » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:58 pm

Again, it's summer league. It can't tell you if you'll be awesome, only if you're going to suck.
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Re: Game Day (Summer League): Suns (1-0) @ Grizzlies (2-0), Tues 7/9/19

Post by Nodack » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:19 pm

Lol

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