Game Day: Nuggets (2-0) @ Suns (2-1), Mon 10/14/19

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Re: Game Day: Nuggets (2-0) @ Suns (2-1), Mon 10/14/19

Post by Cap » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:53 am

Indy wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:40 am
I don't remember who said this, but the fact that we hit more threes in 1 preseason game than we did in the other 3 combined says something. Let's hope it is saying something about our potential versus saying something about blind squirrels.
I think it says that Rubio, Booker and Ayton are the problem. :twisted:
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Post by Superbone » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:01 am

Indy wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:40 am
I don't remember who said this, but the fact that we hit more threes in 1 preseason game than we did in the other 3 combined says something. Let's hope it is saying something about our potential versus saying something about blind squirrels.
I don't think blind squirrels could ever make 24 threes in a game while shooting over 50% on them. ;)
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Post by O_Gardino » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:29 pm

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Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:30 pm
Both Rubio and Ayton just look a little slow to me. Will they be able to turn it on in the regular season?

Kaminsky looks legit. He has been our best big the last few games. Can he keep it up in the regular season?

I'll catch the second half tomorrow.
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Post by O_Gardino » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:09 pm

I'll make these observations, but I don't think we can draw any conclusions yet.

Our 2nd or 3rd string or whatever cut the lead significantly with the Denver starters still in.

Oubre is still playing with the energy we need from him and his timing is getting better. His shot does look better, although that is totally subjective. When he misses on a wild drive, or fails to come up with a steal, he reminds me of Josh Jackson with Warren's passing skills.

Kaminsky dominated preseason for us. He was our best big in every game.

Ayton... he had a ton of plays where you could see he just wasn't sure what to expect. Looks like Analysis Paralysis to me. On one pick and roll with Rubio where Ayton rolled hard to the rim, then suddenly backed off when he was almost there. Rubio made a tough pass to him that was a little too low and Ayton bobbled it. I didn't think it was the pass or the catch that caused the turnover, it was Ayton being unsure if he should go hard or give Rubio space to work. On another possession, I saw his hands go up to catch a pass, then go back down and as he turned his head to see if he should roll to the basket, then his hands came back up... He just didn't know if he should be expecting to catch a pass at the top of the key, or if he should roll to the basket.

Cam continued to be steady and better than I thought he would be.

Bridges shot is concerning. I brushed off his lowing 3pt% last season because he was a rookie, but I just don't like his stroke. LOVE his defense and attitude. But I worry that he won't be an elite shooter.

Nice to see Okobo playing well. I hope he he can build on his game in the G league this season.

I love every minute Jalen Lacque is on the floor. Yeah, he had a mistake or two, but he just has good sense for the game and amazing athleticism. The NAZ suns are going to be super fun to watch this year.
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Post by Superbone » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:22 pm

O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:29 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:30 pm
Both Rubio and Ayton just look a little slow to me. Will they be able to turn it on in the regular season?

Kaminsky looks legit. He has been our best big the last few games. Can he keep it up in the regular season?

I'll catch the second half tomorrow.
I watched the first half with Al for Audio, and the second half today with the Denver guys. The Denver guys are some of the worst I've ever heard.
The Denver players can do no wrong while the Suns did everything wrong. According to them.
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Post by Superbone » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:37 pm

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Post by In2ition » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:40 pm

Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:22 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:29 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:30 pm
Both Rubio and Ayton just look a little slow to me. Will they be able to turn it on in the regular season?

Kaminsky looks legit. He has been our best big the last few games. Can he keep it up in the regular season?

I'll catch the second half tomorrow.
I watched the first half with Al for Audio, and the second half today with the Denver guys. The Denver guys are some of the worst I've ever heard.
The Denver players can do no wrong while the Suns did everything wrong. According to them.
I was hoping for a comeback win, but it didn't work out. The Suns didn't deserve it, but it would have been interesting to hear the Denver guys talk about it.
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Post by O_Gardino » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:04 pm

I don't mind if the home announcers are homers. They work for the team; they can be fans too. The Portland guys really didn't bother me much.

But the Denver guys were just a****** with big mouths and not much class. They didn't add any basketball insight or unique perspective. They just asserted that the players were wrong and dumb for making normal basketballs plays. Tons of ego and no content.
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Post by bajanguy008 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:57 pm

I didn't get to watch the game but saw this earlier and I can get used to seeing this kinda commitment from Booker. This makes me happy lol cause we all know he has to improve

https://twitter.com/7SOLpod/status/1184227052423008256

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Post by SunsRIt » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:08 am
I know it's not realistic, but if I were James Jones, I'd be quietly fielding offers for Ayton. Before anyone jumps down my throat, I'm not suggesting they should trade him tomorrow. He's just not untouchable in my eyes.

His lack of aggression and defensive awareness really bother me. I'm also not seeing the kind of improvement I was hoping for and I really question whether he's ever going to be an elite big man in the NBA.

Ultimately, I have doubts about him on a max contract in the future and I'm curious about the type of return the Suns could get for him in the next 12 months.
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read. He is a big man with one year of college and one year in the NBA under his belt. Shaq and Olojuwan were in college for 3 years. David Robinson was in college for 4 years and spent 2 years in the Navy before he stepped foot on an NBA court. As much as we want him to be the elite big man of the game right now, we have to give him at least 2 more years to see what we have.

Have some freaking patience.

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Post by Flagrant Fowl » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:15 pm

You're basically saying that the Suns should lock him into a max contract before shows the ability to produce at that value. I'd just hate to see the Suns put themselves in that situation.

Again, I'm not saying trade him tomorrow or even this year. I'd just have him available for the right price if I were James Jones.
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Post by Wally_West » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:04 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:15 pm
You're basically saying that the Suns should lock him into a max contract before shows the ability to produce at that value. I'd just hate to see the Suns put themselves in that situation.

Again, I'm not saying trade him tomorrow or even this year. I'd just have him available for the right price if I were James Jones.
What is the right price?

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Post by Flagrant Fowl » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:48 pm

Wally_West wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:04 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:15 pm
You're basically saying that the Suns should lock him into a max contract before shows the ability to produce at that value. I'd just hate to see the Suns put themselves in that situation.

Again, I'm not saying trade him tomorrow or even this year. I'd just have him available for the right price if I were James Jones.
What is the right price?
The Anthony Davis package.
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Post by Hermen » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:36 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:48 pm
Wally_West wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:04 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:15 pm
You're basically saying that the Suns should lock him into a max contract before shows the ability to produce at that value. I'd just hate to see the Suns put themselves in that situation.

Again, I'm not saying trade him tomorrow or even this year. I'd just have him available for the right price if I were James Jones.
What is the right price?
The Anthony Davis package.
In other words, he's safely in Phoenix :)

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Post by Danimal » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:06 am

Hermen wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:36 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:48 pm
Wally_West wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:04 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:15 pm
You're basically saying that the Suns should lock him into a max contract before shows the ability to produce at that value. I'd just hate to see the Suns put themselves in that situation.

Again, I'm not saying trade him tomorrow or even this year. I'd just have him available for the right price if I were James Jones.

What is the right price?
The Anthony Davis package.
In other words, he's safely in Phoenix :)
If Minny sucks I wonder if the suns dangle Ayton him and other proceed for KAT. Keeps booker happy. DARs dream is one step closer to reality. Minny save face somewhat by getting a young replacement for KAT

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Post by Flagrant Fowl » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:34 am

Danimal wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:06 am
Hermen wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:36 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:48 pm
Wally_West wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:04 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:15 pm
You're basically saying that the Suns should lock him into a max contract before shows the ability to produce at that value. I'd just hate to see the Suns put themselves in that situation.

Again, I'm not saying trade him tomorrow or even this year. I'd just have him available for the right price if I were James Jones.

What is the right price?
The Anthony Davis package.
In other words, he's safely in Phoenix :)
If Minny sucks I wonder if the suns dangle Ayton him and other proceed for KAT. Keeps booker happy. DARs dream is one step closer to reality. Minny save face somewhat by getting a young replacement for KAT
This is the kind of thing I'm imagining.

The odds are long, but there's a scenario playing out in another universe where Booker tells James Jones that it's either him or Ayton because it isn't working with both of them and Minnesota can't seem to get anywhere with KAT.
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Post by ShelC » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:14 am

I've definitely kicked around the Ayton-KAT thing and it's a no brainer for me if we can get him in PHX with Book. I'm still less high on DAR but Book and KAT's a no brainer. I don't think it'd be Book who'd go to Jones tho, it'd be a combo of Monty and Jones getting together and determining Ayton isn't the guy.

Also wonder if the league would look into tampering if KAT asked out of Minny to come here or just asked out and a deal was made for him to come here.

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Post by Indy » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:37 am

I can't see Minny doing that deal even if we gave them our first rounder and Mikal in the package, too.

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Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:36 am

I like Ayton but I would trade him for KAT in a microsecond.

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Post by Split T » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:43 am

They might do it if we also took that disastrous Wiggins contract. That’s a lot of money coming back though, not sure we could have the salaries to match two max contracts. We’d probably have to include Oubre. Tyler, Oubre, Ayton, 1st for KAT/Wiggins? Do we need to include more?

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