Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Wally_West » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:22 am

Did anyone hear this interview from a few days ago on Bickley and Marotta with Amin Elhassan? He says the rumor around the NBA is that Ayton didn't take the diuretic for a PED but for something embarrassing. Thoughts?

Starts at 2:30
https://arizonasports.com/category/podc ... 26+Marotta

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Democritus » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:54 am

WTF? Ayton is sinking deeper and deeper to the point of no return? Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by SunsRIt » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:40 am

Wally_West wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:22 am
Did anyone hear this interview from a few days ago on Bickley and Marotta with Amin Elhassan? He says the rumor around the NBA is that Ayton didn't take the diuretic for a PED but for something embarrassing. Thoughts?

Starts at 2:30
https://arizonasports.com/category/podc ... 26+Marotta
Too much Viagra? Did it last longer than 4 hours?

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by carey » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:51 am

The only thing I can think of is he was taking viagra or something. I know that it was a problem in MLB and they had to send a notice to players to stop taking it. What do you guys think?
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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:02 am

RE: Viagra

1. That's a lie.
2. If it's not a lie, own it.
3. Stop cheating or stop being a dumbass. Which is it?
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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by ShelC » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:17 am

Just more rumors. And if he took it for viagra then he can't claim he unknowingly took it or took it by accident. And if viagra came up in a test, would it matter? Do they test for it?

Aside from drugs/PEDS/whatever, my initial thought was he took a diuretic to drop weight during training camp. Complete conjecture, but I figured there was a "make weight" clause in his contract or maybe just with the team. The Heat are known for having strict conditioning guidelines for their guys and I thought Jones might be implementing that here. There were highlights of Ayton playing in a league late in the summer and some thought he looked out of shape so I thought maybe that played a factor.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Mori Chu » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:28 am

I thought that maybe he took it to help himself lose weight. Maybe the "embarrassing" thing, if that rumor is true, is just that he was fat and wanted to get back into NBA shape quickly.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by O_Gardino » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:01 am

I think a diuretic can only help you lose water weight, no fat. It's a temporary drop on the scales, but it doesn't help you actually get in shape.
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Post by Indy » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:31 am

O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:01 am
I think a diuretic can only help you lose water weight, no fat. It's a temporary drop on the scales, but it doesn't help you actually get in shape.
Right. It just forces you to deplete water. It isn't like adderall or other amphetamines.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Nodack » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:09 am

So, all we know from all of this is that we don’t know.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Ring_Wanted » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:02 pm

A forbidden diuretic just to lose weight? Possible but there are tons of other wats to get it done with no risk to his NBA career.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Split T » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:56 pm

Why would he need to take a diuretic to cover up viagra? Even if he was embarrassed about taking it, the nba isn’t going to test for viagra. Even if they did, it’s not banned, nothing would be reported, no one would ever know. Am I missing something here?

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Post by JeremyG » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:29 am

Split T wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:56 pm
Why would he need to take a diuretic to cover up viagra? Even if he was embarrassed about taking it, the nba isn’t going to test for viagra. Even if they did, it’s not banned, nothing would be reported, no one would ever know. Am I missing something here?
Perhaps he needed the diuretic to flush it out of his system, because the effects were too strong? Not to cover it up.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Aztec Sunsfan » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:59 am

JeremyG wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:29 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:56 pm
Why would he need to take a diuretic to cover up viagra? Even if he was embarrassed about taking it, the nba isn’t going to test for viagra. Even if they did, it’s not banned, nothing would be reported, no one would ever know. Am I missing somethinhg here?
Perhaps he needed the diuretic to flush it out of his system, because the effects were too strong? Not to cover it up.

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Not sure that’s a gamble worth taking, but, “better judgement” seems a lacking component across Ayton’s mind in this situation. And it would make sense with the Front Office reaction.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Split T » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:15 am

JeremyG wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:29 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:56 pm
Why would he need to take a diuretic to cover up viagra? Even if he was embarrassed about taking it, the nba isn’t going to test for viagra. Even if they did, it’s not banned, nothing would be reported, no one would ever know. Am I missing something here?
Perhaps he needed the diuretic to flush it out of his system, because the effects were too strong? Not to cover it up.
The diuretic wouldn’t eliminate the effects...it could flush it out of the urine, but that’s not where the drug is being metabolized from...that’s just where it’s being excreted.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Danimal » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:57 am

I thought there was meant to be an update by the end of the week. A week has gone by since the original suspension right? Seems to be moving fairly slowly.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Split T » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:19 am

Danimal wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:57 am
I thought there was meant to be an update by the end of the week. A week has gone by since the original suspension right? Seems to be moving fairly slowly.
Probably means nothing is going to happen. It was mentioned that Ayton had a meeting with the NBA, which I think was yesterday.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by JCSunsfan » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:49 pm

Wally_West wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:22 am
Did anyone hear this interview from a few days ago on Bickley and Marotta with Amin Elhassan? He says the rumor around the NBA is that Ayton didn't take the diuretic for a PED but for something embarrassing. Thoughts?

Starts at 2:30
https://arizonasports.com/category/podc ... 26+Marotta
It really sounds like he knew he was going to test positive for THC, which has a slap on the wrist consequence, and took the diuretic to cover it up, which has a severe consequence.

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by SDC » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:55 pm

Once ayton returns, oubre should move to sixth man off the bench

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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension

Post by Superbone » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:06 pm

SDC wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:55 pm
Once ayton returns, oubre should move to sixth man off the bench
Give it up, SDC. You're like a broken record.
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