Around the League: Week 2 10/28-11/3

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Re: Around the League: Week 2 10/28-11/3

Post by Indy » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:34 am

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:15 am
Indy wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:35 am
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I can't believe Embiid gets 2, two fooking games for literally fighting with another player on the court, while Ayton gets over 12x as many games for taking a diuretic. It makes no sense. Embiid could have seriously hurt one of the league's best young players. Ayton took magic peepee juice. Why is the latter 12x worse than the former?
IT IS IN THE CONTRACT.

Sorry for yelling, but the league is just following the rules the players all signed up to follow. If you don't like the idea of a 25 game suspension for a 1st offense getting a positive test for a diuretic, then don't take a f*** diuretic. It isn't complicated. Nobody else got suspended for it and there are literally hundreds of guys in the league.
Yes, it is in the contract. I'm not saying that Ayton's suspension in itself is unfair, nor that he should get a tiny suspension such as 1-2 games. I am saying that it's weird that fighting another player, which is not only unsportsmanlike but also risks injury or worse to both players and others, is seen as being less than 10% as bad as taking a peepee drug.
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Post by O_Gardino » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:20 pm

On the other hand, hugging is very sportsmanlike, encourages healthy hearts, and inspires both greatness and empathy in others. The NBA probably gave them -50 games for fighting, but also gave them +48 for hugging and talking about their feelings.
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Post by Superbone » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:36 pm

OG gets it.
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Post by ShelC » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:25 pm

BTW, Embiid will be suspended for our game on Monday. Sixers still have Horford, but should make things a lot easier on Frank and Baynes.

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Post by Wally_West » Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:54 pm

I know people say the Rockets are a playoff lock but are they really though? Their defense is disgustingly bad. Without Ayton we are a better team than they are and they getting destroyed by Miami right now.

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Post by Mori Chu » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:37 pm

Wally_West wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:54 pm
I know people say the Rockets are a playoff lock but are they really though? Their defense is disgustingly bad. Without Ayton we are a better team than they are and they getting destroyed by Miami right now.
I really dislike this Harden/Westbrook reunion. They're both very good players, but I don't think expending that much of the cap on two ball-dominant high usage rate players is wise. And they both don't play much defense. I think the Rockets are definitely not a title contender. I do think they'll make the playoffs, but I think they will get bounced in the first or second round.

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Post by specialsauce » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:49 pm

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:37 pm
Wally_West wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:54 pm
I know people say the Rockets are a playoff lock but are they really though? Their defense is disgustingly bad. Without Ayton we are a better team than they are and they getting destroyed by Miami right now.
I really dislike this Harden/Westbrook reunion. They're both very good players, but I don't think expending that much of the cap on two ball-dominant high usage rate players is wise. And they both don't play much defense. I think the Rockets are definitely not a title contender. I do think they'll make the playoffs, but I think they will get bounced in the first or second round.
I hate them both so I’m glad they’re together, let’s me enjoy the rest of the league and hate the Rockets even more

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Post by INFORMER » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:51 pm

Before tonight's game, he was averaging 26.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, and 8.4 apg. Then he went out and netted a 29/14/15 triple double.
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Post by The Bobster » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:42 pm

Houston is allowing 127 points a game.
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Post by Mori Chu » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:21 am

INFORMER wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:51 pm
Before tonight's game, he was averaging 26.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, and 8.4 apg. Then he went out and netted a 29/14/15 triple double.
Is it fair to say yet that we drafted the wrong guy last year in Ayton? I'm ready to make it official. What a stupid move. Luka was right there and had already proven he was going to be a superstar. And we badly needed a PG. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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Post by carey » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:57 am

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:21 am
INFORMER wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:51 pm
Before tonight's game, he was averaging 26.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, and 8.4 apg. Then he went out and netted a 29/14/15 triple double.
Is it fair to say yet that we drafted the wrong guy last year in Ayton? I'm ready to make it official. What a stupid move. Luka was right there and had already proven he was going to be a superstar. And we badly needed a PG. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Not just Luka. Trae Young is averaging 26.8ppg 7.3apg, and 5rpg with a PER of 29.26 (8th in the league.) Meanwhile, Ayton sits at home playing XBox.
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Post by Split T » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:01 am

In retrospect, yes we definitely should have drafted Luka, but I don’t think he had proven he would be a superstar. He’s shown that the concerns about him were wrong, but they were fair at the time. He wasn’t in great shape and wasn’t a great athlete. Even with those concerns, he was clearly worthy of the #1 pick, that draft was just stacked and there were a few players worthy of it.

Drafting Ayton is still defensible to me. He’s good, could be great still. Hoping he’s the Hakeem to Luka’s Jordan.

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Post by Split T » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:03 am

carey wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:57 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:21 am
INFORMER wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:51 pm
Before tonight's game, he was averaging 26.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, and 8.4 apg. Then he went out and netted a 29/14/15 triple double.
Is it fair to say yet that we drafted the wrong guy last year in Ayton? I'm ready to make it official. What a stupid move. Luka was right there and had already proven he was going to be a superstar. And we badly needed a PG. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Not just Luka. Trae Young is averaging 26.8ppg 7.3apg, and 5rpg with a PER of 29.26 (8th in the league.) Meanwhile, Ayton sits at home playing XBox.
It’s definitely a ball handler driven league. Though I’d still rather have Ayton than Trae on this team.

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Post by Democritus » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:41 am

I just have to accept and deal with the fact that McD was an idiot who messed up with our franchise by missing on Luka... Just imagine Booker and Luka together... O my...
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Post by Split T » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:54 am

Again, that’s easy to say now, but even on this board, a majority preferred Ayton to Doncic before the draft.

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Post by Mori Chu » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:12 am

Split T wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:54 am
Again, that’s easy to say now, but even on this board, a majority preferred Ayton to Doncic before the draft.
Not me. I vocally wanted Luka and have been bummed out since the moment we picked Ayton. But I still want Ayton to succeed and am rooting for him.

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Post by Split T » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:44 am

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:12 am
Split T wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:54 am
Again, that’s easy to say now, but even on this board, a majority preferred Ayton to Doncic before the draft.
Not me. I vocally wanted Luka and have been bummed out since the moment we picked Ayton. But I still want Ayton to succeed and am rooting for him.
Yes, there were still plenty who wanted Luka, just saying it’s not ridiculous that McD picked Ayton.

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Post by jonh » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:04 pm

Split T wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:44 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:12 am
Split T wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:54 am
Again, that’s easy to say now, but even on this board, a majority preferred Ayton to Doncic before the draft.
Not me. I vocally wanted Luka and have been bummed out since the moment we picked Ayton. But I still want Ayton to succeed and am rooting for him.
Yes, there were still plenty who wanted Luka, just saying it’s not ridiculous that McD picked Ayton.
Yeah, I don't know if I would say it was a majority. But regardless, we have made our bed, and I am fine with moving forward with Ayton (after his 25 game suspension).
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