Around the League: Week 13 1/21-1/26

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ShelC wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:57 am
I'd make a play for Markkanen.
This is what the Suns should do.

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SunsRIt wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:52 am
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:07 pm
Total random opinion. Is there anyone else who hates the Brooklyn Nets court? The glossy, monochromatic shades of grey are exactly the type of thing I'd see from a 15 year old on NBA2K. It's just missing some stupid expression like, "it's lit!" in over worked graffiti and Off-White branding all over the place.

/oldmanrant
I actually like it. Something different.
Every time I see highlights with it, it feels like those black and white photos where one color is shown.
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Is Markkanen available? I assume he is part of their long-term core.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:14 am
Is Markkanen available? I assume he is part of their long-term core.
There is a lot of chatter that he is available, as Boylen has turned him into a player that isn't used correctly for his skill set. Although, I don't know if that's true or not. He would be a fascinating fit next to Ayton in the front court.
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Markkanen would be a perfect fit for their needs.

A smarter move than Love or Gallinari.

The moves make so much sense, so it probably won't happen ... :P :(
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?

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bajanguy008 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:46 pm
The Players gave Devin the 4th most votes behind Luka, Beard and Dame
Just updating my post :)
I'm guessing respect of your peers is still a big deal 8-)


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bajanguy008 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:01 am
bajanguy008 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:46 pm
The Players gave Devin the 4th most votes behind Luka, Beard and Dame
Just updating my post :)
I'm guessing respect of your peers is still a big deal 8-)


This is odd ranking, imo. How does Mitchell get ranked as 5th, when the numbers(if weighted equally) are better for Booker, who is ranked 6th? Players have Book at 4th & Mitchell as 6th, whereas Fans have Mitchell as 7th and Booker at 8th. They come out the same ranking in the Media.
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In2ition wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:11 am
bajanguy008 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:01 am
bajanguy008 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:46 pm
The Players gave Devin the 4th most votes behind Luka, Beard and Dame
Just updating my post :)
I'm guessing respect of your peers is still a big deal 8-)


This is odd ranking, imo. How does Mitchell get ranked as 5th, when the numbers(if weighted equally) are better for Booker, who is ranked 6th? Players have Book at 4th & Mitchell as 6th, whereas Fans have Mitchell as 7th and Booker at 8th. They come out the same ranking in the Media.
It's not equal weight. Fans have 50% weight.
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JeremyG wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:44 am
In2ition wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:11 am
bajanguy008 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:01 am
bajanguy008 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:46 pm
The Players gave Devin the 4th most votes behind Luka, Beard and Dame
Just updating my post :)
I'm guessing respect of your peers is still a big deal 8-)


This is odd ranking, imo. How does Mitchell get ranked as 5th, when the numbers(if weighted equally) are better for Booker, who is ranked 6th? Players have Book at 4th & Mitchell as 6th, whereas Fans have Mitchell as 7th and Booker at 8th. They come out the same ranking in the Media.
It's not equal weight. Fans have 50% weight.
I figured it had to be something like that. I'm now wondering where Caruso is?
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In2ition wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:46 am
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:44 am
In2ition wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:11 am
bajanguy008 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:01 am
bajanguy008 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:46 pm
The Players gave Devin the 4th most votes behind Luka, Beard and Dame
Just updating my post :)
I'm guessing respect of your peers is still a big deal 8-)


This is odd ranking, imo. How does Mitchell get ranked as 5th, when the numbers(if weighted equally) are better for Booker, who is ranked 6th? Players have Book at 4th & Mitchell as 6th, whereas Fans have Mitchell as 7th and Booker at 8th. They come out the same ranking in the Media.
It's not equal weight. Fans have 50% weight.
I figured it had to be something like that. I'm now wondering where Caruso is?
Well it looks like he was 4th in fan voting. So halfway between 4 and infinity? :lol:
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Speaking of Lauri (who would be my choice too):


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That's not good news. That could develop into a sports hernia.
A similar injury derailed Michael Dickerson's NBA career.
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?

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Shabazz wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:07 pm
Delon Wright for Aaron Baynes and Jevon Carter?
I'd do it. I'm not sure if Dallas would still look to this deal after they acquired Willy Cauley Stein.
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Ring_Wanted wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:09 am
Tyler for Satoransky and Thad Young (both have two more years remaining, but '21-22 is only partially guaranteed at 5M for Sato and 6M for Thad). Offer up to a couple of seconds. They can have any of Okobo, Jerome and Carter as well.
I wanted Satoransky over Rubio, so I have no problem targeting him. But Thad Young is a waste. He is unreliable from long range and a mediocre (at best) rebounder. I don't think he offers enough value to take on his contract.
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Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:09 am
This erases PHX's cap space for next offseason (poor FA class anyway)
I disagree about the FA class. If you're looking for superstars, then yeah, it isn't good. But I would love to have money pursue any of the following players:

Chris Boucher
Fred Vanvleet
Christian Wood
Willy Hernangomez
Mason Plumlee
Juan Hernangomez
Meyers Leonard
Derrick Jones Jr
Nerlens Noel Jr
Serge Ibaka
Trey Burke
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LazarusLong wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:53 pm
That's not good news. That could develop into a sports hernia.
A similar injury derailed Michael Dickerson's NBA career.
I thought Dickerson had some sort of abdominal strain issue...
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INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:27 pm
I disagree about the FA class. If you're looking for superstars, then yeah, it isn't good. But I would love to have money pursue any of the following players:

Chris Boucher
Fred Vanvleet
Christian Wood
Willy Hernangomez
Mason Plumlee
Juan Hernangomez
Meyers Leonard
Derrick Jones Jr
Nerlens Noel Jr
Serge Ibaka
Trey Burke
The MLE should be enough to add any of those players, with the exception of FVV and Ibaka.

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Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:27 pm
I wanted Satoransky over Rubio, so I have no problem targeting him. But Thad Young is a waste. He is unreliable from long range and a mediocre (at best) rebounder. I don't think he offers enough value to take on his contract.
Waste for Young might be a little too strong. He's still useful. Not a rebounder but solid and versatile defense with decent scoring.

14.7M next season (and the aforementioned unguaranteed last year) doesn't repulse me. The real target would be Sato for sure, but CHI would need solid incentive if he was moved by himself. Knowing their FO has the reputation of being cheap, I'd think the proposition of unloading Thad would lesses the caliber of assets needed to pry Sato.

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INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:27 pm
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:09 am
Tyler for Satoransky and Thad Young (both have two more years remaining, but '21-22 is only partially guaranteed at 5M for Sato and 6M for Thad). Offer up to a couple of seconds. They can have any of Okobo, Jerome and Carter as well.
I wanted Satoransky over Rubio, so I have no problem targeting him. But Thad Young is a waste. He is unreliable from long range and a mediocre (at best) rebounder. I don't think he offers enough value to take on his contract.
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:09 am
This erases PHX's cap space for next offseason (poor FA class anyway)
I disagree about the FA class. If you're looking for superstars, then yeah, it isn't good. But I would love to have money pursue any of the following players:

Chris Boucher
Fred Vanvleet
Christian Wood
Willy Hernangomez
Mason Plumlee
Juan Hernangomez
Meyers Leonard
Derrick Jones Jr
Nerlens Noel Jr
Serge Ibaka
Trey Burke
No Joe Harris, Davis Bertans or Bryn Forbes? The list is good though.
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I'm watching Minnesota and OKC right now. Someone needs to put on a tape of KAT for Ayton. The way he gets his ass into his defender to create position and drop step for an easy layup should be a fundamental skill for Ayton, but I hardly ever see him do it. He really needs to work on lowering his base on the block to gain leverage against his defender.

I'll also add that Ayton's poor fundamentals in this area are a bigger reason for poor entry passes than the guy passing the ball. It's a hell of a lot harder for a defender to get a hand on the entry pass if Ayton initiates contact and pushes his man toward the rim before the pass. Too often he drifts towards the passer, losing contact with his defender. That allows the defender the freedom to reach around Ayton without fouling and deflect the entry pass.
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Ring_Wanted wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:32 am
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:27 pm
I disagree about the FA class. If you're looking for superstars, then yeah, it isn't good. But I would love to have money pursue any of the following players:

Chris Boucher
Fred Vanvleet
Christian Wood
Willy Hernangomez
Mason Plumlee
Juan Hernangomez
Meyers Leonard
Derrick Jones Jr
Nerlens Noel Jr
Serge Ibaka
Trey Burke
The MLE should be enough to add any of those players, with the exception of FVV and Ibaka.
I would like to add three players from that list. The MLE won't cover that.
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