Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by ShelC » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:38 am

It's kind of funny because even tho the Jazz are 36-21, their fans are kind of down on them and don't think they're that good. And while we beat them last night, we also seem to be a really good matchup. They only have one scorer in Mitchell and Bojan can get hot, but Conley's been a major dud, Ingles hasn't played well offensively, they have no true PF (Bojan plays there) and Gobert isn't really a threat to score. They're well coached but there also might be a bit of fool's gold there.

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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by LazarusLong » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:01 am

Big contribution from the bench -- 39 pts from Cam, Daric, Baynes and Carter.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by ShelC » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:47 am

Our swings and, ironically, our depth were too much for the Jazz.

Also, Dario looks pretty good as a backup 4/5.

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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by AmareIsGod » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:43 am

ShelC wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:38 am
It's kind of funny because even tho the Jazz are 36-21, their fans are kind of down on them and don't think they're that good. And while we beat them last night, we also seem to be a really good matchup. They only have one scorer in Mitchell and Bojan can get hot, but Conley's been a major dud, Ingles hasn't played well offensively, they have no true PF (Bojan plays there) and Gobert isn't really a threat to score. They're well coached but there also might be a bit of fool's gold there.
Unless we lost, of course. Then the Jazz are a really good team that we match up poorly to and we shouldn't have expected to win.

I'll just chalk it up as beating a team with a much better record than ours and stare into the sun with joy today!
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:46 am

Everything looks amazing when all the shots fall. Rubio and Saric seem to shoot like that about once a month. It’d be great if they could streak a few of those games together.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by In2ition » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:50 am

Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:08 am
djy2j wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:38 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:01 pm
These refs are incredibly bad.
I truly believe that there will be a Donaghey type conspiracy that surfaces some day involving this season. You can’t watch a game right in front of your face and confidently make the calls that are being made. This is happening league wide.
Tonight were the most late calls that I've ever seen in one game. And only one of them benefited the Suns.
Totally agree. It was super odd.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by In2ition » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:52 am

Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:01 am
Cap wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:31 pm
Subs come in, doesn’t take long for things to go bad.
I am DONE with Okobo. He refuses to shoot the ball which causes defenses to easily pick off his passes. Carter is looking much better. I'd stop playing Okobo.
Between the refs and Okobo, it felt like the Suns were playing 4 on 9 at times in the first half. Good thing Monty essentially benched Okobo for the rest of the game, otherwise he would have tried to blow it for the Suns like he had money on it. The Suns were better than the Jazz from start to finish, but it was hard to see in the box score through the first half.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by specialsauce » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:15 am

Nodack wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:42 am
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:37 am
Man that game was so fun to watch. Aside from the bullshit fouls raining left and right, everyone played well and that second half was pure poetry. This is playoff Suns tonight. Wish they could bottle this up and carry it forward.
The Suns are healthy for the most part, only down one power forward now. That to me is the biggest difference. Monty has bodies that go in the right slots now. Ayton gets in foul trouble and Baynes comes in and holds down the fort like he is supposed to. If they are done with injuries I could see a push.
I just don’t think we’re consistent enough from 3 to string together the kind of stretch needed to make a late push. Would love to be proven wrong

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Post by Superbone » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:18 am

Nodack wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:42 am
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:37 am
Man that game was so fun to watch. Aside from the bullshit fouls raining left and right, everyone played well and that second half was pure poetry. This is playoff Suns tonight. Wish they could bottle this up and carry it forward.
The Suns are healthy for the most part, only down one power forward now. That to me is the biggest difference. Monty has bodies that go in the right slots now. Ayton gets in foul trouble and Baynes comes in and holds down the fort like he is supposed to. If they are done with injuries I could see a push.
This is what I've been trying to tell INF.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by Superbone » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:19 am

virtual9mm wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:01 am
I fully expected this team to put together a 10-game winning streak at some point. Time is running out, though.
Just go for it and see what happens. Playoffs are unlikely so I just want the team to have momentum going into next season and start understanding what they can become.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by Superbone » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:31 am

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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by Cap » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:48 am

Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:19 am
virtual9mm wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:01 am
I fully expected this team to put together a 10-game winning streak at some point. Time is running out, though.
Just go for it and see what happens. Playoffs are unlikely so I just want the team to have momentum going into next season and start understanding what they can become.
Your bet on the over is looking pretty good, and that’s what really matters after all.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by virtual9mm » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:15 pm

Cap wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:48 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:19 am
virtual9mm wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:01 am
I fully expected this team to put together a 10-game winning streak at some point. Time is running out, though.
Just go for it and see what happens. Playoffs are unlikely so I just want the team to have momentum going into next season and start understanding what they can become.
Your bet on the over is looking pretty good, and that’s what really matters after all.
I want the Suns to do what the Mavs did the last season before Dirk, Finley, and Nash hit the big time - make a ferocious dash towards the finish line. They fell short and so will the Suns most likely but you establish yourselves that way.

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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by In2ition » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:19 pm

virtual9mm wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:15 pm
Cap wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:48 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:19 am
virtual9mm wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:01 am
I fully expected this team to put together a 10-game winning streak at some point. Time is running out, though.
Just go for it and see what happens. Playoffs are unlikely so I just want the team to have momentum going into next season and start understanding what they can become.
Your bet on the over is looking pretty good, and that’s what really matters after all.
I want the Suns to do what the Mavs did the last season before Dirk, Finley, and Nash hit the big time - make a ferocious dash towards the finish line. They fell short and so will the Suns most likely but you establish yourselves that way.
I wouldn't mind that, even just missing out. As a fan, you can point to how good we were and could have been if Ayton didn't get suspended for 25 games, but also you have identified pieces going forward and clear holes that can be filled that can make a major difference the next year. You can also expect another bump in production from experience and natural maturation.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by specialsauce » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:15 pm

Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:18 am
Nodack wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:42 am
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:37 am
Man that game was so fun to watch. Aside from the bullshit fouls raining left and right, everyone played well and that second half was pure poetry. This is playoff Suns tonight. Wish they could bottle this up and carry it forward.
The Suns are healthy for the most part, only down one power forward now. That to me is the biggest difference. Monty has bodies that go in the right slots now. Ayton gets in foul trouble and Baynes comes in and holds down the fort like he is supposed to. If they are done with injuries I could see a push.
This is what I've been trying to tell INF.
It’s just not true, it’s a homer take IMO

Rubio played at a level last night he’s only played at about a dozen times this season. That has nothing to do with injuries to the bigs. His shot is just so inconsistent.

If Ricky could play at that level consistently, we’d be a totally different team. He’d also probably be playing elsewhere.

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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by n4th4n » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:08 pm

The Bobster wrote:
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Oubre with another idiotic taunting technical.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by Superbone » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:37 pm

Cap wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:48 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:19 am
virtual9mm wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:01 am
I fully expected this team to put together a 10-game winning streak at some point. Time is running out, though.
Just go for it and see what happens. Playoffs are unlikely so I just want the team to have momentum going into next season and start understanding what they can become.
Your bet on the over is looking pretty good, and that’s what really matters after all.
True dat. My Knicks under bet looking good to payoff as well.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by Superbone » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:40 pm

specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:15 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:18 am
Nodack wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:42 am
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:37 am
Man that game was so fun to watch. Aside from the bullshit fouls raining left and right, everyone played well and that second half was pure poetry. This is playoff Suns tonight. Wish they could bottle this up and carry it forward.
The Suns are healthy for the most part, only down one power forward now. That to me is the biggest difference. Monty has bodies that go in the right slots now. Ayton gets in foul trouble and Baynes comes in and holds down the fort like he is supposed to. If they are done with injuries I could see a push.
This is what I've been trying to tell INF.
It’s just not true, it’s a homer take IMO

Rubio played at a level last night he’s only played at about a dozen times this season. That has nothing to do with injuries to the bigs. His shot is just so inconsistent.

If Ricky could play at that level consistently, we’d be a totally different team. He’d also probably be playing elsewhere.
There's nothing in that statement about Rubio. Are you responding to the right message? You seem lost.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by specialsauce » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:29 pm

Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:40 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:15 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:18 am
Nodack wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:42 am
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:37 am
Man that game was so fun to watch. Aside from the bullshit fouls raining left and right, everyone played well and that second half was pure poetry. This is playoff Suns tonight. Wish they could bottle this up and carry it forward.
The Suns are healthy for the most part, only down one power forward now. That to me is the biggest difference. Monty has bodies that go in the right slots now. Ayton gets in foul trouble and Baynes comes in and holds down the fort like he is supposed to. If they are done with injuries I could see a push.
This is what I've been trying to tell INF.
It’s just not true, it’s a homer take IMO

Rubio played at a level last night he’s only played at about a dozen times this season. That has nothing to do with injuries to the bigs. His shot is just so inconsistent.

If Ricky could play at that level consistently, we’d be a totally different team. He’d also probably be playing elsewhere.
There's nothing in that statement about Rubio. Are you responding to the right message? You seem lost.
Lol. No you referenced the talk with INF that we were just Baynes and Saric away from competing, that it threw everything off not having them. That ignores the fact that Rubio played out of his mind last night, and we are more likely to see the Rubio pre all star break as that is closer to how he has been his whole career. So the bigs being healthy doesn’t change the trajectory of the team a whole lot, because what made the biggest difference to me last night was 22/11/7 steals from Rubio

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Re: Game Day: Suns (23-34) @ Jazz (36-20), Mon 2/24/20

Post by Superbone » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:07 pm

specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:29 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:40 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:15 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:18 am
Nodack wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:42 am


The Suns are healthy for the most part, only down one power forward now. That to me is the biggest difference. Monty has bodies that go in the right slots now. Ayton gets in foul trouble and Baynes comes in and holds down the fort like he is supposed to. If they are done with injuries I could see a push.
This is what I've been trying to tell INF.
It’s just not true, it’s a homer take IMO

Rubio played at a level last night he’s only played at about a dozen times this season. That has nothing to do with injuries to the bigs. His shot is just so inconsistent.

If Ricky could play at that level consistently, we’d be a totally different team. He’d also probably be playing elsewhere.
There's nothing in that statement about Rubio. Are you responding to the right message? You seem lost.
Lol. No you referenced the talk with INF that we were just Baynes and Saric away from competing, that it threw everything off not having them. That ignores the fact that Rubio played out of his mind last night, and we are more likely to see the Rubio pre all star break as that is closer to how he has been his whole career. So the bigs being healthy doesn’t change the trajectory of the team a whole lot, because what made the biggest difference to me last night was 22/11/7 steals from Rubio
Gotcha. However, my take has nothing to do with Rubio having monster games. It was just about everybody playing the roles they were brought in to play and having depth at each position, PG excepted.

Once again, what I was responding to courtesy of Nodack:
The Suns are healthy for the most part, only down one power forward now. That to me is the biggest difference. Monty has bodies that go in the right slots now. Ayton gets in foul trouble and Baynes comes in and holds down the fort like he is supposed to. If they are done with injuries I could see a push.
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