NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Cap » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:47 am

pickle wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:33 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:26 am
Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:18 am
I know this goes without saying, but I sincerely hope that every one of you and your family manage to stay healthy. Statistically some of us are likely to get the darn thing before all is said and done. Or at the very least, some of our loved ones will get it. I hope for the best and hope that everybody will be okay.
Estimates are up to 150 million infected in the US alone. That means that, with a 2-3% mortality rate, 3-4.5M dead.
That estimate is way overblown... I don't have anything to back it up, but it's too outrageous imho.
It also allows Trump to claim victory when the numbers come it at 50 million indicted and 1 million dead.
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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

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Cap wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:47 am
It also allows Trump to claim victory when the numbers come it at 50 million indicted and 1 million dead.
I know Mueller was thorough, but...!

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Nodack » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:10 am

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:18 pm
Nodack wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:14 pm
Since they aren’t testing hardly anyone what’s the difference?
Your first link involves countries where they are testing and that statistic is the reported number of infections.

The second link is about Ohio, where there isn't adequate testing and the statistic is the suspected number of infections.

I don't really see the connection between the two links you posted other than the US needs to do a better job of testing, but maybe that's what you're trying to emphasize.
My point was their suspected cases in Ohio is almost as much as the confirmed cases in the rest of the world combined. If true it would be a really bad thing. Since they are only testing a tiny fraction of the public it makes it hard to tell what the real picture is. Some people think that might be by design.

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

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JJ will be better than KP when all is said and done [in 2020]. Mark it. — AIG, with Indy betting against

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Indy » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:45 am

I am not sure which team came up with that first, but it is a great idea.

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Post by AmareIsGod » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:26 am

Is it the AI / computer playing? Or will it be two actual people controlling the teams?
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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Indy » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:26 pm

Indy wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:11 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:05 pm
virtual9mm wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:09 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:26 am
Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:18 am
I know this goes without saying, but I sincerely hope that every one of you and your family manage to stay healthy. Statistically some of us are likely to get the darn thing before all is said and done. Or at the very least, some of our loved ones will get it. I hope for the best and hope that everybody will be okay.
Estimates are up to 150 million infected in the US alone. That means that, with a 2-3% mortality rate, 3-4.5M dead.
Depends on if the medical system collapses. A South Korea or China ex-Wuhan scenario's about a 0.3 to 1% mortality rate -- the medical system has to hold for that to materialize. A Wuhan or Milan scenario's about a 5% mortality rate -- the medical system will have been overwhelmed and otherwise treatable cases will lead to death. I suspect that it will vary widely across various regions of the US. Worried.
Im reading that there are about a dozen dead so far.
As of yesterday's totals CDC has over 1200 confirmed cases and 36 deaths. But for some reason they are excluding numbers from people that didn't seem to contract the virus while in the US, even if they were tested while in the US.
Over 400 new confirmed cases in US since yesterday.

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Mori Chu » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:42 pm

My wife had to go to the hospital this week, and the room next to hers had a COVID-19 patient in it toward the end. She and I both may have been exposed to it now. Pretty scary.

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Post by In2ition » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:26 pm

Mori Chu wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:42 pm
My wife had to go to the hospital this week, and the room next to hers had a COVID-19 patient in it toward the end. She and I both may have been exposed to it now. Pretty scary.
I hope you and your wife didn't contract it.
"30 wins would be an extremely disappointing season" yeah, I said it and I mean it.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:42 pm
My wife had to go to the hospital this week, and the room next to hers had a COVID-19 patient in it toward the end. She and I both may have been exposed to it now. Pretty scary.
This is not good practice. You're probably ok but still not a good feeling.

I got some important new information. There are most likely very few people with mild cases that stay mild. This means two different things. On one hand, there will be few cases that remain undetected, meaning that the statistics from China (excluding Wuhan) and South Korea should be a fairly accurate measure of death rates -- 0.7 to 1.0%. On the other hand, there won't be many silent cases that ambush folks -- they'll be able to backtrace and quarantine fairly quickly. Overall, this is good news for "controlling" the virus but bad news if you happen to catch it.

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Post by virtual9mm » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:05 am

specialsauce wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:41 pm
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I should add that we have only administered 6000 tests across the US. For comparison, UK has already tested 30k and they have only 20% of the US population.
It’s a joke. We’ve asked for testing of patients and been declined several times already.
According to some statistics, South Korea has tested 3500 people per million population -- and as of the beginning of last week, the US has tested 5 people per million. You had the first confirmed case of the virus in Korea and the US on the very same day.

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Superbone » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:05 pm

Cap wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:02 am
Who won?
Wormwood/Superbone 2019/2020 season bet: Suns win < 30 games, Wormwood wins, else 'Bone wins. 1 month avatar shame starting July 1st of winner's choosing.

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Superbone » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:15 pm

Superbone wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:05 pm
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Who won?
To answer my own question:

https://thesmokingcuban.com/2020/03/14/ ... ka-doncic/
In the meantime, the Phoenix Suns decided to play out the games on NBA2K. It began with a matchup against the Dallas Mavericks which they streamed on Twitch. Antonio Saldivar played as the Suns. He is a member of Grizz Gaming in the 2K League. Lawrence “Buddy” Norman controlled the Mavs. He is the brand ambassador for Mavericks gaming.

It was a monster performance from Luka Doncic that secured the victory for the Mavs. He finished with 50 points and 19 assists as Dallas picked up the 150-136 win.
I think they should have taken out the human equation and had it set up for AI vs AI.
Wormwood/Superbone 2019/2020 season bet: Suns win < 30 games, Wormwood wins, else 'Bone wins. 1 month avatar shame starting July 1st of winner's choosing.

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Superbone » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:16 pm

Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:07 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:04 pm
Cap wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:49 pm
I wonder what this means for Bone’s Vegas bet.
Good question. If the season is over or shortened, I’d imagine it would nullify them and I’d get my original bets back. What happens if it’s shortened and the Suns still get to 30? It would then make sense to honor the over bets.
Maybe they'll just use winning percentage instead?
It’s a pretty sure thing they won’t take Bone’s suggestion of paying on the over bets that made it and refunding the ones that didn’t.
Why not? If you made it in less games, you made it!

Anyway, this Covid-19 induced layoff may ultimately help my bet. I'm reading that the NBA is going to do it's best to finish the full schedule even if it means going late into the year. I know it helps get every team healthy but the Suns were worse off than most. We were in the midst of losing Cam for two weeks and now he'll be fully recovered. There's even a good chance that Oubre is recovered enough from meniscus surgery to play. Ayton will be fully recovered. I'm ready to cash my bets!
Wormwood/Superbone 2019/2020 season bet: Suns win < 30 games, Wormwood wins, else 'Bone wins. 1 month avatar shame starting July 1st of winner's choosing.

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Post by Cap » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:39 pm

Superbone wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:16 pm
Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:07 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:04 pm
Cap wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:49 pm
I wonder what this means for Bone’s Vegas bet.
Good question. If the season is over or shortened, I’d imagine it would nullify them and I’d get my original bets back. What happens if it’s shortened and the Suns still get to 30? It would then make sense to honor the over bets.
Maybe they'll just use winning percentage instead?
It’s a pretty sure thing they won’t take Bone’s suggestion of paying on the over bets that made it and refunding the ones that didn’t.
Why not?
Because they’d go broke. You’re proposing rules under which everybody who placed an “over” bet either wins or gets a refund. The bettor can win but the house can’t.
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Post by SunsRIt » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:14 pm

Superbone wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:16 pm
Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:07 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:04 pm
Cap wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:49 pm
I wonder what this means for Bone’s Vegas bet.
Good question. If the season is over or shortened, I’d imagine it would nullify them and I’d get my original bets back. What happens if it’s shortened and the Suns still get to 30? It would then make sense to honor the over bets.
Maybe they'll just use winning percentage instead?
It’s a pretty sure thing they won’t take Bone’s suggestion of paying on the over bets that made it and refunding the ones that didn’t.
Why not? If you made it in less games, you made it!

Anyway, this Covid-19 induced layoff may ultimately help my bet. I'm reading that the NBA is going to do it's best to finish the full schedule even if it means going late into the year. I know it helps get every team healthy but the Suns were worse off than most. We were in the midst of losing Cam for two weeks and now he'll be fully recovered. There's even a good chance that Oubre is recovered enough from meniscus surgery to play. Ayton will be fully recovered. I'm ready to cash my bets!
I heard and interesting idea on the radio the other day suggesting the NBA have all teams make the playoffs and have best of 3 for a couple of rounds before the “real” playoffs start.

Gambo also suggested the NBA is interested to see how ratings, etc. are late into the summer. He said they would rather start regular season later in the year to have to compete with the NFL less for ratings.

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by O_Gardino » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 pm

Cap wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:39 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:16 pm
Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:07 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:04 pm


Good question. If the season is over or shortened, I’d imagine it would nullify them and I’d get my original bets back. What happens if it’s shortened and the Suns still get to 30? It would then make sense to honor the over bets.
Maybe they'll just use winning percentage instead?
It’s a pretty sure thing they won’t take Bone’s suggestion of paying on the over bets that made it and refunding the ones that didn’t.
Why not?
Because they’d go broke. You’re proposing rules under which everybody who placed an “over” bet either wins or gets a refund. The bettor can win but the house can’t.
I've heard that a lot of sports betting places don't want to win too many bets. They make their money on the fees they charge to place the bets, so they want to as many bettor win as they can afford to keep them coming back.

I don't know about the specific place where 'Bone placed his bet, but it's possible they do take a hit on that one specific type of bet for the good publicity.
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Post by Superbone » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:32 pm

Cap wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:39 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:16 pm
Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:07 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:04 pm


Good question. If the season is over or shortened, I’d imagine it would nullify them and I’d get my original bets back. What happens if it’s shortened and the Suns still get to 30? It would then make sense to honor the over bets.
Maybe they'll just use winning percentage instead?
It’s a pretty sure thing they won’t take Bone’s suggestion of paying on the over bets that made it and refunding the ones that didn’t.
Why not?
Because they’d go broke. You’re proposing rules under which everybody who placed an “over” bet either wins or gets a refund. The bettor can win but the house can’t.
That makes sense. Thanks.
Wormwood/Superbone 2019/2020 season bet: Suns win < 30 games, Wormwood wins, else 'Bone wins. 1 month avatar shame starting July 1st of winner's choosing.

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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Cap » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:55 pm

O_Gardino wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 pm
Cap wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:39 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:16 pm
Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:07 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:34 pm


Maybe they'll just use winning percentage instead?
It’s a pretty sure thing they won’t take Bone’s suggestion of paying on the over bets that made it and refunding the ones that didn’t.
Why not?
Because they’d go broke. You’re proposing rules under which everybody who placed an “over” bet either wins or gets a refund. The bettor can win but the house can’t.
I've heard that a lot of sports betting places don't want to win too many bets. They make their money on the fees they charge to place the bets, so they want to as many bettor win as they can afford to keep them coming back.

I don't know about the specific place where 'Bone placed his bet, but it's possible they do take a hit on that one specific type of bet for the good publicity.
A Vegas casino, IINM, who probably isn’t in a mood to be generous right now. It won’t be surprising if casinos are forced to close by the pandemic. They will almost certainly be getting fewer visitors.
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Re: NBA Season Suspended due to COVID-19

Post by Mori Chu » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:02 pm

Even in a 2K game we get owned by Luka. Great.

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