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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by specialsauce » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:13 pm

Cap wrote:
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What’s the most you’d all give up for Giannis if he demands a trade?
Booker’s going nowhere, and I don’t think the Bucks would accept a package without him.
What did the Clippers give up for Paul George?

The rockets for Westbrook?

The celtics for Kyrie?

The Lakers for AD?


None of them got a DBook in return.

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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by Split T » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:25 pm

I’m curious who could offer a better deal than us. Ayton/Oubre/Picks.

Philly could offer something built around Simmons or Embiid.

People talk about GS, but they don’t have anything to offer.

I guess the Thunder could put together quite an offer with all their picks.
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by INFORMER » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:35 pm

specialsauce wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:10 pm
Come on. This is Giannis. If you have a chance to pair him with Booker you do it. Worry about keeping him later.
Agreed.
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by INFORMER » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:36 pm

Split T wrote:
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People talk about GS, but they don’t have anything to offer.
I don't think that's true. Wiggins and the #1 pick is a very solid foundation for an offer.
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Post by INFORMER » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:40 pm

Darius Miller's 20-21 salary is non-guaranteed. So the Suns could trade Rubio for Lonzo Ball and Darius Miller and shave $6 million off their payroll.
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by INFORMER » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:53 pm

ShelC wrote:
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Hernangomez has the skillset and IQ, but not the athleticism and couldn't crack the Hornets' rotation.
I have liked Hernangomez for awhile. He would be a nice pickup.
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by Split T » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:03 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:36 pm
Split T wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:25 pm
People talk about GS, but they don’t have anything to offer.
I don't think that's true. Wiggins and the #1 pick is a very solid foundation for an offer.
Is it better than Ayton and #10? I still don’t really believe in Wiggins. I think he could be pretty good as a 3rd option to Steph and Klay, but he’d be going back to 1st option/2nd option with Milwaukee. He’s also expensive.

The #1 pick is nice and they do have the 2021 Minny pick as well, I’d just want some actual, proven, nba talent coming back if I trade Giannis. Wiggins doesn’t do it for me. I’m not sure Ayton really does either though.
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by INFORMER » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:16 pm

Split T wrote:
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I’d just want some actual, proven, nba talent coming back if I trade Giannis. Wiggins doesn’t do it for me. I’m not sure Ayton really does either though.
Exactly. Ayton has some nice stats, but ultimately, that's about it. Obviously, there is potential there for a lot more, which makes a package built around him appealing, but I think the same is true for what the Warriors can put together. Ultimately, it would come down to Milwaukee's preference.
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by Split T » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:33 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:16 pm
Split T wrote:
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I’d just want some actual, proven, nba talent coming back if I trade Giannis. Wiggins doesn’t do it for me. I’m not sure Ayton really does either though.
Exactly. Ayton has some nice stats, but ultimately, that's about it. Obviously, there is potential there for a lot more, which makes a package built around him appealing, but I think the same is true for what the Warriors can put together. Ultimately, it would come down to Milwaukee's preference.
Ya I see that. The draft capital from GS is much better. Ultimately, I think it’s much more likely Milwaukee makes a play to keep Giannis. I mentioned CP3 earlier, I think they’ll do something like that.
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Post by In2ition » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:06 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:36 pm
Split T wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:25 pm
People talk about GS, but they don’t have anything to offer.
I don't think that's true. Wiggins and the #1 pick is a very solid foundation for an offer.
I think you mean the #2 pick, right?
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by specialsauce » Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:32 pm

I would think Ayton and Oubre would be a much more attractive package than that.

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Post by Ring_Wanted » Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:02 am

Wiggins on a max contract is a big negative and the #2 is from what is considered one of the weakest drafts in recent memory (when it comes to the top). If I am MIL, this package doesn't offer me any consolation.

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Post by Aztec Sunsfan » Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:46 pm

Ring_Wanted wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:02 am
Wiggins on a max contract is a big negative and the #2 is from what is considered one of the weakest drafts in recent memory (when it comes to the top). If I am MIL, this package doesn't offer me any consolation.
I like to believe that James Jones wouldn’t consider trading Oubre and Ayton (picks aside) for Wiggins and the #2 ourselves, so probably Milwaukee hang up on them at soon as GS finish their sentence.

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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by INFORMER » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:10 pm

In2ition wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:06 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:36 pm
Split T wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:25 pm
People talk about GS, but they don’t have anything to offer.
I don't think that's true. Wiggins and the #1 pick is a very solid foundation for an offer.
I think you mean the #2 pick, right?
Right. Sorry.
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

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Post by AmareIsGod » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:30 pm

Oh man. The Greek Freak on the Suns? Pinch me.
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by Cap » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:49 pm

AmareIsGod wrote:
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Oh man. The Greek Freak on the Suns? Pinch me.
No pinches forthcoming. Keep dreaming for now. You’ll wake up eventually.

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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by LazarusLong » Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:46 pm

Cap wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:49 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:30 pm
Oh man. The Greek Freak on the Suns? Pinch me.
No pinches forthcoming. Keep dreaming for now. You’ll wake up eventually.
When it happens, let me know.
Still waiting for Kobe and T-Mac to collaborate in Phoenix (remember that rumor?)
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by Superbone » Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:35 pm

LazarusLong wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:46 pm
Cap wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:49 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:30 pm
Oh man. The Greek Freak on the Suns? Pinch me.
No pinches forthcoming. Keep dreaming for now. You’ll wake up eventually.
When it happens, let me know.
Still waiting for Kobe and T-Mac to collaborate in Phoenix (remember that rumor?)
Pippen too.
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Re: NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

Post by Ring_Wanted » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:50 am

Aztec Sunsfan wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:46 pm
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:02 am
Wiggins on a max contract is a big negative and the #2 is from what is considered one of the weakest drafts in recent memory (when it comes to the top). If I am MIL, this package doesn't offer me any consolation.
I like to believe that James Jones wouldn’t consider trading Oubre and Ayton (picks aside) for Wiggins and the #2 ourselves, so probably Milwaukee hang up on them at soon as GS finish their sentence.
Nice way to put it, spot on.

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