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Re: Game Day (C19 Scrimmage 3): Raptors (46-18) @ Suns (26-39) Tues 7/28/20

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:04 pm
by INFORMER
ShelC wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:42 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:27 pm
ShelC wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:05 pm
Well yea but this is the same as the final few games on late March/April, when he wouldn't have been playing anyway.
It's not the same. No one sits out because next season is their contract season. In this instance, next season is 5 months away at the least.
Same as it would be if he sat out 8 meaningless games in April and the season were starting in October. If he gets injured again or suffers a setback, it might affect next season for him and/or could affect the team's ability to deal him in the offseason. It's not technically a contract year for him right now, but it's close enough.
I get what you are saying, but I just don't think that happens. Teams may sit guys because they are tanking (like the Suns did with Bledsoe) or wanting to see young players when the playoffs aren't a possibility. But I can't think of a situation where a guy has sat out the final few games because the following season was going to be a contract year. Guys may sit out because they will be a free agent in the upcoming offseason, but not when their free agency is a year away.
INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:29 pm
It feels like there is a lot of speculation without any real substance on which to base the speculation.
Hence the term "speculation".
Speculation can be based on something substantive. If a player approaching free agency puts his home up for sale, changes agents, and skips his exit interview, you can speculate that he is a goner. It isn't confirmed, he hasn't actually stated he is leaving, but you can speculate that he is.

I think we have those types of concrete clues to go on when we are cooking up these narratives as to why Oubre isn't playing.

Re: Game Day (C19 Scrimmage 3): Raptors (46-18) @ Suns (26-39) Tues 7/28/20

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:22 am
by jonh
INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:29 pm
It feels like there is a lot of speculation without any real substance on which to base the speculation.
In the other hand, there is more than enough evidence to make a hot take, which I’m fine with.

Re: Game Day (C19 Scrimmage 3): Raptors (46-18) @ Suns (26-39) Tues 7/28/20

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:30 am
by O_Gardino
:lol: It's not even the off-season and we've reached the point where we disagree on the validity of even having opinions.

Re: Game Day (C19 Scrimmage 3): Raptors (46-18) @ Suns (26-39) Tues 7/28/20

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:47 am
by Mori Chu
Given how weird this bubble season is, I don't mind if any particular player wants to sit out or otherwise take extra precautions before playing. And any player recovering from an injury gets a long leash from me; take your time and get well and don't rush back to the court.

I do agree that the Oubre situation looks a little odd, but I'd rather wait and see. Maybe more clarifying information will come out. I don't see any point in jumping to conclusions.

Re: Game Day (C19 Scrimmage 3): Raptors (46-18) @ Suns (26-39) Tues 7/28/20

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:07 pm
by Split T
Final Scrimmage game before the 8-0 bubble run

Re: Game Day (C19 Scrimmage 3): Raptors (46-18) @ Suns (26-39) Tues 7/28/20

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:09 pm
by Indy
this game never happened. Hearsay!

Re: Game Day (C19 Scrimmage 3): Raptors (46-18) @ Suns (26-39) Tues 7/28/20

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:56 pm
by Superbone
Indy wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:09 pm
this game never happened. Hearsay!
Did I ever say the game didn’t happen? No.

Re: Game Day (C19 Scrimmage 3): Raptors (46-18) @ Suns (26-39) Tues 7/28/20

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:06 am
by Indy
Superbone wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:56 pm
Indy wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:09 pm
this game never happened. Hearsay!
Did I ever say the game didn’t happen? No.
:P

No you said it wasn't televised so any account of how Mikal played was hearsay.

Re: Game Day (C19 Scrimmage 3): Raptors (46-18) @ Suns (26-39) Tues 7/28/20

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:50 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:06 am
Superbone wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:56 pm
Indy wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:09 pm
this game never happened. Hearsay!
Did I ever say the game didn’t happen? No.
:P

No you said it wasn't televised so any account of how Mikal played was hearsay.
Correct. You said it didn't happen. Plus, I really thought you were talking about an inter-team scrimmage which aren't televised.