Around the League: Season Resumes

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Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by Superbone » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:28 pm

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Let's get this thing going again! Season finally starts back up Thursday night! I never thought this night would happen. Basketball is back, baby!
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Post by Nodack » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:23 am

I just hope the bubble doesn’t burst.

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Post by O_Gardino » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:45 am

Both games tonight should be very fun. Pels/Jazz and LA/LA. I'm looking forward to Los Angeles losing the game tonight.
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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:18 pm

This set-up would be ideal for a VR viewing experience. I haven't looked into it, so maybe something is available.
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Post by ShelC » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:56 pm

The Pels lost...does that help us?

I watched the first half and they were playing very well, was surprised they lost the game.

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Post by The Bobster » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:59 pm

Zion had 13 points in 15 minutes tonight, but 0 rebounds, steals or blocks
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Post by Split T » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:25 pm

Pels loss takes us from .1% to .15% chance at playoffs
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Post by O_Gardino » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:16 am

The Pels were -16 with Zion on the court, so maybe he's not game ready yet.

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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by ShelC » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:28 am

Still not sure exactly what to make of Zion. Is he a highlight reel, style over substance guy or can he be a real impact player?

Someone had a poll on Twitter asking if anyone would Ayton for Zion. I didn't vote, couldn't make up my mind.

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Post by 3rdside » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:54 am

ShelC wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:28 am
Still not sure exactly what to make of Zion. Is he a highlight reel, style over substance guy or can he be a real impact player?

Someone had a poll on Twitter asking if anyone would Ayton for Zion. I didn't vote, couldn't make up my mind.
I’d say no to that trade for injury reasons alone .. dude is stacked, his knees gonna need to be superhuman to support that much weight for 15 years, and so far no good.

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Post by ShelC » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:40 am

Yea the injury history and his size/athleticism is a concern similar to Blake Griffin. And we know Ayton is a 20-10 center even if he just shows up.

I think my head says Ayton but the fan in me says Zion. He'd make us a team to watch, some buzz and also help Book get more exposure.

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Post by Mori Chu » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:43 am

Yeah, that's a tough one. If known to be healthy for the majority of their careers, you probably take Zion. But as it is, you might want Ayton as a safer bet. And it isn't crazy to say that Ayton might end up better than Zion even if both stay healthy.

Another thing with Zion is that it might be harder to put a great roster around him. Ayton is a center, so you can surround him with shooters and scorers. With Zion you have the tricky question of who to put with him in the frontcourt. Do you play him with a center? If so, is the center going to be shooting 3s, or more of a post bruiser? Will that clog the paint? Or if you try to play Zion at the 5, isn't he too small for teams like Philly and the Lakers?

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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by ShelC » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:48 am

I've tried imagining where and how to play Zion in the frontcourt. I think he's a 4 who could work with a guy like Baynes actually. Zion hasn't really projected to be a great rebounder or interior defender so having a Baynes type gives you the best of both worlds- the bruiser interior defender/rebounder who can step out and shoot to give Zion room to operate inside.

Ayton is definitely safer at the moment and easier, theoretically, to build around.

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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by Indy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:54 am

Only die hard Suns fans would prefer Ayton to Zion at this point in their careers.

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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by O_Gardino » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:02 pm

I know what you mean, Indy. Zion is the much more exciting prospect who attacks the basket and draws fouls.

But at this point in their careers, Zion is on a 15 minute per game restriction. At this point, he's been injured and out for more games than he has played, even going back to college. There are some very valid concerns that he will ever be a healthy player.
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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by Mori Chu » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:07 pm

Jonathan Isaac the only player not to wear BLM short or kneel for anthem; interesting.


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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by Cap » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:43 pm

What a jerk.

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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by Split T » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:57 pm

Here’s his answer for why:

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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:34 pm

"Do you believe that black lives matter?" What the fuck kind of question is that?

It was hard to hear everything he was saying, but it seemed like he's put a lot of thought into things. I have no problem with Isaac expressing himself, just like I never had an issue with kneeling during the anthem in the first place.
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Re: Around the League: Season Resumes

Post by The Bobster » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:45 pm

If we don't have problems with players choosing to make a political stance, we shouldn't have a problem with players who choose not to.

I'm more concerned with Michael Porter Jr.'s crazy COVID-19 statement.
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