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Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:43 pm
by INFORMER
There is no shortage of bad-decision making in NBA front offices. Markelle Fultz?! Gross.
I like OG Anunoby, but how can you pay him that when he averaged double figure points for the first time last season: 10.6 ppg?!
Jonathan Isaac was developing nicely, but he has suffered two significant injuries already, and has he even played a full season? But yeah, here is $20 million a year.
And where is this money coming from? Last time I checked, fans still aren't in NBA arenas. Insane.
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:45 pm
by INFORMER
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:36 pm
The Derrick White extension is bananas.
Especially shocking coming from the Spurs. And why did he get more than Dejounte Murray?
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:11 am
by O_Gardino
I've been shocked by the spending this year.
Meanwhile, Collins, Markkanen, and Ball did not get extended. What were those guys asking for?
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:40 am
by Oatmeal
I'd love to get in on Ball or Markkanen.
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:49 am
by carey
Is that what 11ppg 3.5apg (46/37/85) is worth now & days? $18M per year?
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:49 am
by O_Gardino
John Collins is asking for the max, right? At 4/80 ATL wouldn't have hesitated.
I don't think Ball or Markkanen have as much value around the nba as they might think. Markkanen still hasn't been better than Saric. Ball has proven skills, but he's also got to be in just the right situation. He's a poor team's Ben Simmnos.
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:54 am
by carey
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:49 am
John Collins is asking for the max, right? At 4/80 ATL wouldn't have hesitated.
I don't think Ball or Markkanen have as much value around the nba as they might think. Markkanen still hasn't been better than Saric. Ball has proven skills, but he's also got to be in just the right situation. He's a poor team's Ben Simmnos.
Ball does have value, but as you say it only works with a team built entirely to maximize his skill set. He's not really a plug & play type player like a Chris Paul or what have you. If I were him I'd have fixed that broken shot years ago. Especially if I knew it were the difference between $100M and $150M.
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:36 pm
by Mori Chu
INFORMER wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:43 pm
There is no shortage of bad-decision making in NBA front offices. Markelle Fultz?! Gross.
I like OG Anunoby, but how can you pay him that when he averaged double figure points for the first time last season: 10.6 ppg?!
Jonathan Isaac was developing nicely, but he has suffered two significant injuries already, and has he even played a full season? But yeah, here is $20 million a year.
And where is this money coming from? Last time I checked, fans still aren't in NBA arenas. Insane.
Orlando is one of the worst offenders here. They are eagerly locking in a team that is going to miss the playoffs.
You just know that in 2-3 years these same teams are going to come to the negotiating table, hat in hand, saying they just can't find a way to stay profitable, and that the players will need to take a few points less of basketball related income in the next CBA.
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:03 pm
by INFORMER
Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:41 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:10 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:07 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:58 pm
I don’t know why so many on here are ready to trade Ayton for damn role players. I don’t oppose trading him but we should aim a little higher. Jeez.
This
You’re not getting a star player for Ayton, sorry it’s just not happening.
Agree to disagree. I know I’m in the minority but I think he’s going have a good to great season this year and will average somewhere around 20 & 12, making him prime trade bait next season if star becomes available.
Maybe. The problem is that too many teams have the center position solved, and upgrading to Ayton just won't have value for them.
I only see Brooklyn, Detroit, Charlotte, Chicago, NY (maybe), OKC, and Toronto as potential suitors for Ayton, and none of them are going to offer a star or someone close to it.
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:12 pm
by specialsauce
INFORMER wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:03 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:41 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:10 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:07 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:58 pm
I don’t know why so many on here are ready to trade Ayton for damn role players. I don’t oppose trading him but we should aim a little higher. Jeez.
This
You’re not getting a star player for Ayton, sorry it’s just not happening.
Agree to disagree. I know I’m in the minority but I think he’s going have a good to great season this year and will average somewhere around 20 & 12, making him prime trade bait next season if star becomes available.
Maybe. The problem is that too many teams have the center position solved, and upgrading to Ayton just won't have value for them.
I only see Brooklyn, Detroit, Charlotte, Chicago, NY (maybe), OKC, and Toronto as potential suitors for Ayton, and none of them are going to offer a star or someone close to it.
If KAT asks out of Minnesota.......
...we don’t have the contracts to make it work
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:01 pm
by bajanguy008
Gonna leave this here as it's a random post
Just giving the guys something else to discuss
, some values are well interesting but hey these things often are
I should really be giving my 5 when posting but I still undecided lol
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:03 pm
by INFORMER
There are some serious issues with the groupings. How is Gasol more expensive than Jokic?
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:16 pm
by Superbone
INFORMER wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:03 pm
There are some serious issues with the groupings. How is Gasol more expensive than Jokic?
Hey, look at that. Something we can agree on.
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:24 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
PG SG SF PF C
$5 Nash $2 Dragic $3 Stojakovic $1 Deng $4 Gasol
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:28 pm
by INFORMER
Who is the $3 NY Knick?
And is that Sarunas Maurcilonas (I'm probably butchering the spelling) in the $2 group?
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:28 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
INFORMER wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:03 pm
There are some serious issues with the groupings. How is Gasol more expensive than Jokic?
Not sure about Jokic at $2: but Gasol had a great career. I can see your point
Also, Yao Ming is a bargain at $1, really tempting if you not are considering a modern play environment
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:28 pm
by Superbone
No Embiid?
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:29 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
Superbone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:28 pm
No Embiid?
No Dtlef Schrempf, no Sabonis
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:30 pm
by INFORMER
Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:28 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:03 pm
There are some serious issues with the groupings. How is Gasol more expensive than Jokic?
Not sure about Jokic at $2: but Gasol had a great career. I can see your point
I was referring to Marc, not Pau.
Re: Around the League: Offseason
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:31 pm
by INFORMER
Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:29 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:28 pm
No Embiid?
No Dtlef Schrempf, no Sabonis
Detlef is there.