Around the League: Offseason

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by In2ition » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:48 pm

Split T wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:09 pm


This would solve all our problems, haha
The Suns only improve by 9 wins, but hey we kept Booker and Bridges. They could have anyone of us play PG and win the title.
"30 wins would be an extremely disappointing season" yeah, I said it and I mean it.

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by Indy » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:43 pm

:lol:

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by INFORMER » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:47 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:29 pm
From my perspective, Presti and the OKC FO are at fault as much as Donovan for their shortcomings. I don't think Donovan is an exceptional coach, but he's not exactly on his last legs in the league.

My coach rankings
1. Nick Nurse
2. Erik Spoelstra
3. Greg Popovich
4. Brad Stevens
5. Steve Kerr
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6. Terry Stotts
7. Rick Carlisle
8. Monty Williams (homer)
9. Mike Malone
10. Mike Budenholzer
11. Mike D'Antoni
12. Doc Rivers
13. Billy Donovan
14. Taylor Jenkins
15. Quin Snyder
Why is Monty above D'Antoni, Malone, Budenholzer, Snyder, and Rivers?
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Re: Around the League: Offseason

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by INFORMER » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:20 pm

I love Kelly.

But I think we need to see a few new things in his game, if you don’t want him to go the same way Warren did.
The same way as Warren? You mean traded for nothing with an asset, making the playoffs, while the Suns finish below .500?
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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by specialsauce » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:03 am

INFORMER wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:20 pm
I love Kelly.

But I think we need to see a few new things in his game, if you don’t want him to go the same way Warren did.
The same way as Warren? You mean traded for nothing with an asset, making the playoffs, while the Suns finish below .500?
Ok, because that has anything to do with the post.

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:24 am

INFORMER wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:47 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:29 pm
From my perspective, Presti and the OKC FO are at fault as much as Donovan for their shortcomings. I don't think Donovan is an exceptional coach, but he's not exactly on his last legs in the league.

My coach rankings
1. Nick Nurse
2. Erik Spoelstra
3. Greg Popovich
4. Brad Stevens
5. Steve Kerr
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6. Terry Stotts
7. Rick Carlisle
8. Monty Williams (homer)
9. Mike Malone
10. Mike Budenholzer
11. Mike D'Antoni
12. Doc Rivers
13. Billy Donovan
14. Taylor Jenkins
15. Quin Snyder
Why is Monty above D'Antoni, Malone, Budenholzer, Snyder, and Rivers?
Because I'll always be a bit of a Suns homer who wants to overstate minor successes.

Plus, of all the guys I listed under Monty, there isn't a single one that I'd hands down take as HC of the Suns over Monty right now.
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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by Mori Chu » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:25 am

specialsauce wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:03 am
INFORMER wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:20 pm
I love Kelly.

But I think we need to see a few new things in his game, if you don’t want him to go the same way Warren did.
The same way as Warren? You mean traded for nothing with an asset, making the playoffs, while the Suns finish below .500?
Ok, because that has anything to do with the post.
It does have something to do with the post, in that you constantly talk about how you wish we would ship out Oubre, often for paltry returns, on the argument that it would be addition by subtraction.

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by INFORMER » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:07 am

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:24 am
INFORMER wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:47 pm

Why is Monty above D'Antoni, Malone, Budenholzer, Snyder, and Rivers?
Because I'll always be a bit of a Suns homer who wants to overstate minor successes.
:D
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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by Ring_Wanted » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:33 am

Oubre is basically the opposite to addition by substraction. I can see how some of the things he does can rub you the wrong way, but the intensity and, yes, talent, are of great help for this team.

If you can find me a trade for a star involving Oubre+, I am all ears, but If we trade him for a light return hoping that we can do better with the cap space, chances are we'll regret it.

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by O_Gardino » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:11 pm

The main thing I want Oubre to improve in is Games Played.
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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by INFORMER » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:39 pm

Yeah, he has been unavailable the last 10+ games of both seasons he has been here.
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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by INFORMER » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:42 pm

Ring_Wanted wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:33 am
If you can find me a trade for a star involving Oubre+, I am all ears
Ben Simmons?
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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by specialsauce » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:39 pm

The point of the post was that Warren was shipped because he didn’t fit the 0.5 offense. It had nothing to do with what he was traded for.

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by Ring_Wanted » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:20 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:42 pm
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:33 am
If you can find me a trade for a star involving Oubre+, I am all ears
Ben Simmons?
Outstanding talent, even with the obvious flaw. The shot is absurd, but imagine him playing at PF or even C. Driving and kicking to Booker or the snipers.

I'd spend up to Oubre, 2020 #10, swap+protected+unprotected from 2021 to 2024. Yeah, that's right. 4 1stR and Oubre.

But we get to to add to Booker-Ayton while not giving up Cam or Bridges when adding a non shooter. That's worth a premium in draft stock. They can have Jerome, of course. And a Saric sign and trade, if they want/need it.

My guess is that 76rs could use a third team coming in and taking part of that draft stock to send them win now talent and, if possible, cap relief from one of Horford-Harris. If I were them, I'd consider trading for Chris Paul (one of their albatross and one pretty 1stR).

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by Ring_Wanted » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:22 pm

There are murmurs about KAT...

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by djy2j » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:18 pm

Ring_Wanted wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:22 pm
There are murmurs about KAT...
Can't have Book and KAT on the same team now that KAT is smashing Book's ex. Girls ruin everything :lol:

Also why does if feel like the same girls get passed around the league so much? These guys could pick from a sea of women but they just pass around the same four.
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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:21 pm

djy2j wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:18 pm
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:22 pm
There are murmurs about KAT...
Can't have Book and KAT on the same team now that KAT is smashing Book's ex. Girls ruin everything :lol:

Also why does if feel like the same girls get passed around the league so much? These guys could pick from a sea of women but they just pass around the same four.
Or maybe it's the women passing around the players. Ever think about it that way?
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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by Oatmeal » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:15 pm

Ring_Wanted wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:22 pm
There are murmurs about KAT...
Where..?

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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Post by carey » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:18 pm

Doc Rivers out. Wonder what will happen there? https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/299 ... ources-say
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