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Wally_West wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:08 pm
I’m so sorry, Sauce. :lol:

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My God, it only gets worse!! Subtraction by addition
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Frank can be useful at times. Damian Jones doesn’t belong in the league.

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Drewsprocket wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:41 pm
Frank can be useful at times. Damian Jones doesn’t belong in the league.
Frank can hit the 3 ball and pass, Jones can get a rebound, dunk, and offer a little bit of rim protection. Some nights you'll need to go with Frank, others Jones will be more useful.
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Drewsprocket wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:41 pm
Frank can be useful at times. Damian Jones doesn’t belong in the league.
Neither does Frank and the Kings of all teams just said that. The Kings will take literally anyone and they didn’t want him.
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I guess there are worse moves we could have made...

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Wally_West wrote:
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I’m so sorry, Sauce. :lol:

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I have never seen this happen. I guess it is allowed because Sac gave him a contract in between that we claimed waivers upon?

Frank is a good third-stringer -- just not a second-stringer. Would welcome him back if he doesn't play heavy minutes.

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Welp...Frank is...something I guess. At the very least, he knows the team and system. He played in preseason so he's in shape and can play some spot minutes. He just needs to make his shots.

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Drewsprocket wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:41 pm
Frank can be useful at times. Damian Jones doesn’t belong in the league.
Frank just got waived by the team in a bigger playoff drought than the Suns.

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They have a lot of bigs tho with Bagley, Bjelica, Holmes, Barnes and Parker who see time at the 4 and now Whiteside so not a lot of minutes at the 4/5 for Frank - not that he should warrant any. But he's a body for us until Saric comes.

Honestly not digging the Saric vibe right now but it's still early so if he comes back healthy and plays, then it won't matter. Just hoping he get's right and does his thing off the bench.

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Split T wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:03 pm


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I think you mean Whoomp, there it is!
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I think it's fair to celebrate Franky K's accomplishments last season.

More total FTA than:
Ayton
Aaron Baynes
Cam Johnson
Jevon Carter

Higher FG% than:
Ricky Rubio
Cam Johnson
Jevon Carter

Higher 2pt% than:
Kelly Oubre
Ricky Rubio
Cam Johnson
Jevon Carter

More ORB than:
Devin Booker
Jevon Carter

More DRB than:
Cam Johnson
Jevon Carter


More AST than:
Ayton
Cam Johnson
Aaron Baynes

All comparisons are vs players who played more total minutes than Frank.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:37 am
I think it's fair to celebrate Franky K's accomplishments last season.

More total FTA than:
Ayton
Aaron Baynes
Cam Johnson
Jevon Carter

Higher FG% than:
Ricky Rubio
Cam Johnson
Jevon Carter

Higher 2pt% than:
Kelly Oubre
Ricky Rubio
Cam Johnson
Jevon Carter

More ORB than:
Devin Booker
Jevon Carter

More DRB than:
Cam Johnson
Jevon Carter


More AST than:
Ayton
Cam Johnson
Aaron Baynes

All comparisons are vs players who played more total minutes than Frank.
All great stats, but he’s just pants!
As others have said, at least he’s a body, they hopefully won’t be expected to play many minutes. Actually disappointed that we’ve taken him back. Just feels like a backwards step as so many of us were happy he’d gone.
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Don’t really have any feelings about Frank. Don’t think we’ll need to count on him and he’s a non gauranteed minimum deal. My issue with bringing him back was his team option for 5 million. He wasn’t worth that. He’s fine on a minimum deal.

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We know that he's good for the locker room, the guys like him, and he knows the offense, so there is no ramping up for him. That's about the best I can say for Frank. He'll have good games and bad games.
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In2ition wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:20 am
We know that he's good for the locker room, the guys like him, and he knows the offense, so there is no ramping up for him. That's about the best I can say for Frank. He'll have good games and bad games.
Really? I wouldn't think that considering he's a Trumper.
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carey wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:53 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:20 am
We know that he's good for the locker room, the guys like him, and he knows the offense, so there is no ramping up for him. That's about the best I can say for Frank. He'll have good games and bad games.
Really? I wouldn't think that considering he's a Trumper.
I don't understand the leap in logic to make him a bad locker room guy or teammate.

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Those stats were meant to be purely silly, but I made myself sad looking at how many minutes went to players who just weren't effective.

Hopefully we get better quality minutes this season.
Booker: 2500 --> Booker: 2500
Rubio: 2000 --> CP3: 2000 (assuming he misses ~10 games
Carter: 900 --> Carter: 800
Okobo: 700 --> Payne: 800
TJ + TJ: 800 --> Galloway: 800

Bridges: 2000 --> Bridges: 2000
Cam: 1200 --> Cam: 2000
Oubre: 2000 --> Crowder: 1600

Ayton: 1200 --> Ayton: 2300
Saric: 1600 --> Saric: 1600
Baynes: 900 --> Stix: 800
Kaminsky + Diallo: 1200 --> Kaminsky + Smith: spot minutes
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