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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Indy » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:06 pm

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He is off to a great start. He is playing on the level that the Suns need.
You have been, by far, the most critical of Mikal on this site, and been pretty vocal about him not being worth the 2 picks we paid to get him. Is that still the case?

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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by INFORMER » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:09 pm

Indy wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:06 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:10 pm
He is off to a great start. He is playing on the level that the Suns need.
You have been, by far, the most critical of Mikal on this site, and been pretty vocal about him not being worth the 2 picks we paid to get him. Is that still the case?
If we get this Mikal Bridges for the entire season, then no, that still won't be the case.

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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Cap » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:13 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:09 pm
Indy wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:06 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:10 pm
He is off to a great start. He is playing on the level that the Suns need.
You have been, by far, the most critical of Mikal on this site, and been pretty vocal about him not being worth the 2 picks we paid to get him. Is that still the case?
If we get this Mikal Bridges for the entire season, then no, that still won't be the case.
72.9% TS and zero turnovers for the entire season? I’m guessing no.

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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Superbone » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:15 pm

Cap wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:13 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:09 pm
Indy wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:06 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:10 pm
He is off to a great start. He is playing on the level that the Suns need.
You have been, by far, the most critical of Mikal on this site, and been pretty vocal about him not being worth the 2 picks we paid to get him. Is that still the case?
If we get this Mikal Bridges for the entire season, then no, that still won't be the case.
72.9% TS and zero turnovers for the entire season? I’m guessing no.
Yeah, wow, I've heard of high expectations but that is ridiculous! :P
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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Indy » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:38 pm

Cap wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:13 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:09 pm
Indy wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:06 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:10 pm
He is off to a great start. He is playing on the level that the Suns need.
You have been, by far, the most critical of Mikal on this site, and been pretty vocal about him not being worth the 2 picks we paid to get him. Is that still the case?
If we get this Mikal Bridges for the entire season, then no, that still won't be the case.
72.9% TS and zero turnovers for the entire season? I’m guessing no.
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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Indy » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:41 pm

INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:09 pm
Indy wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:06 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:10 pm
He is off to a great start. He is playing on the level that the Suns need.
You have been, by far, the most critical of Mikal on this site, and been pretty vocal about him not being worth the 2 picks we paid to get him. Is that still the case?
If we get this Mikal Bridges for the entire season, then no, that still won't be the case.
If we get a legit starter with this level of defense and 12ppg on +38% from 3, I think 2 first round picks is a wash. If we start getting 15-18 ppg and 40% from three, we are definitely ahead.

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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by INFORMER » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:43 pm

Indy wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:41 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:09 pm
Indy wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:06 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:10 pm
He is off to a great start. He is playing on the level that the Suns need.
You have been, by far, the most critical of Mikal on this site, and been pretty vocal about him not being worth the 2 picks we paid to get him. Is that still the case?
If we get this Mikal Bridges for the entire season, then no, that still won't be the case.
If we get a legit starter with this level of defense and 12ppg on +38% from 3, I think 2 first round picks is a wash. If we start getting 15-18 ppg and 40% from three, we are definitely ahead.
I need the second scenario. If Bridges brings the D along with 15-16 ppg and shooting 38-40% from distance, then I am satisfied.

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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by specialsauce » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:50 pm

Are we talking about a max player if we’re approaching 18ppg?

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Post by O_Gardino » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm

bajanguy008 wrote:
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I think Monty said they added/tweaked some things defensively and Mikal said they wanted to make Gobert more of a playmaker. Gobert got his numbers but I don't feel like he impacted the game all that much. Might've been different if we weren't hitting our shots I guess.
Yea he's lucky he didn't have to try to battle on the glass against this guy all night :)
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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Indy » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm

specialsauce wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:50 pm
Are we talking about a max player if we’re approaching 18ppg?
Do guys averaging under 20 get max deals? I guess if you are great on defense.

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Post by O_Gardino » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:12 pm

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The turnover stat is cool, but there aren't really any assists either. Which is fine! But he's not often tasked with the P/R.
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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Split T » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:13 pm

Indy wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:50 pm
Are we talking about a max player if we’re approaching 18ppg?
Do guys averaging under 20 get max deals? I guess if you are great on defense.
Rudy...Did Draymond get a max? Ben Simmons. Not sure Horford got a max, but he got 30 million. Conley and Jrue.
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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Split T » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:14 pm

O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:12 pm
Split T wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:53 pm
The turnover stat is cool, but there aren't really any assists either. Which is fine! But he's not often tasked with the P/R.
Ya, players that don’t pass don’t usually turn it over.
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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Indy » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:19 pm

Split T wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:12 pm
Split T wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:53 pm
The turnover stat is cool, but there aren't really any assists either. Which is fine! But he's not often tasked with the P/R.
Ya, players that don’t pass don’t usually turn it over.
it feels like half of Book's TOs are not on passes.

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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by specialsauce » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:47 pm

Split T wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:13 pm
Indy wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:50 pm
Are we talking about a max player if we’re approaching 18ppg?
Do guys averaging under 20 get max deals? I guess if you are great on defense.
Rudy...Did Draymond get a max? Ben Simmons. Not sure Horford got a max, but he got 30 million. Conley and Jrue.
I would say this...if he continues this upward trend I would not be willing to lose him no matter the dollar amount

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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by ShelC » Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:44 am

Mikal's not worth 30mil right now. He'd have to really expand his game as a ballhandler and show more off-the-dribble scoring on a consistent basis.

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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Split T » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:41 am

ShelC wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:44 am
Mikal's not worth 30mil right now. He'd have to really expand his game as a ballhandler and show more off-the-dribble scoring on a consistent basis.
Oh for sure, but he’s improving every year. We need to lock him into a deal next offseason because his price is only gonna go up if we wait. Guys like Anunoby were getting 4/72 I believe? Bridges will be around 20 million a year I think.
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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Indy » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:44 am

Split T wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:41 am
ShelC wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:44 am
Mikal's not worth 30mil right now. He'd have to really expand his game as a ballhandler and show more off-the-dribble scoring on a consistent basis.
Oh for sure, but he’s improving every year. We need to lock him into a deal next offseason because his price is only gonna go up if we wait. Guys like Anunoby were getting 4/72 I believe? Bridges will be around 20 million a year I think.
If the first 6 games of Bridges is what his ceiling is as a player (15 pts, 5 rbs, 2 stocks on +40% from 3 on 6 attempts), he is worth that contract. He could be the new Marion (always take the best player 2-4 on the opposing team, score 15-20 without any set plays).

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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by In2ition » Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:05 pm



Mikal is and was at the time worth a mid 1st and late 1st rnd pick. He's looking even better right now.
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Re: Suns News: Week 2 12/28-1/3

Post by Superbone » Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:14 pm

In2ition wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:05 pm
Mikal is and was at the time worth a mid 1st and late 1st rnd pick. He's looking even better right now.
One of the few things McD did right.
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