Game Day: Suns (6-3) @ Pacers (6-2), Sat 1/9/21

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Re: Game Day: Suns (6-3) @ Pacers (6-2), Sat 1/9/21

Post by specialsauce » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:33 pm

Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:17 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:00 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:00 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:27 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:35 pm
The Warriors aren’t as good of example as you think they are. They paid Bogut 13 million when they won the title, David Lee made 15 million. They benefitted hugely from a way under market deal that Curry was on. He was making like 11 or 12 million a year. Draymond was never making max money. All this, plus the huge cap jump in 2016 allowed them to sign Durant.

They are a 1 in a million scenario where they had a MVP on a cheap contract and had a 20 million dollar cap increase hit right before they had to re-sign Curry.
Okay.

The Celtics have 2 players making over $15M this year (will be 3 next year when Tatums deal kicks in).

The Lakers have 3 (Schroeder is right at 15M).

Clippers have 3 (if you count Batums albatross deal)

Miami Heat have 2.

These are smart teams and organizations that are built to have sustained success.


The dumb organizations overpay for role players. Spending $20M on someone who is not a franchise player is a death sentence. These players in general are luxuries but not true difference makers over their potential cheaper replacements.
I don’t think we really disagree here. I think we just disagree on Turners value. I think 18 million a year is fine for him. He’s a fringe DPOY candidate who can space the floor on offense.
You would make him
One of your 3 highly paid players?

Wow- totally disagree on his value. He’s so replaceable to me.
Would depend on my other players. Indy has been a very good team with him as a top 3 paid guy. I’m curious what you’d be willing to pay this current version of Ayton?
Hard pass. Just like hard pass on giving Gobert max money. These defensive bigs in this era are so easily replaceable to me.

I would pay Ayton $12-15M max.

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Re: Game Day: Suns (6-3) @ Pacers (6-2), Sat 1/9/21

Post by Split T » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:46 pm

I think paying Rudy the max was crazy too...Turner is paid half the salary Rudy is gonna get. Rudy at 20-25 million a year seems fair.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (6-3) @ Pacers (6-2), Sat 1/9/21

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:50 pm

No team is going to win a title paying Rudy Gobert $25M unless they have a bunch of underpaid stars around him.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (6-3) @ Pacers (6-2), Sat 1/9/21

Post by BKinSJC » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:38 pm

Rudy's situation seems like it's very unique. Combination of a small market team that hit unexpectedly on a late round pick, a guy who seems to like the team and is really appreciated by its fans, and a new owner coming in and wanting to make an "I'm willing to spend to win!" type of statement.

Doesn't mean that it's a good deal -- it's not -- but I can see how it happened.

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Re: Game Day: Suns (6-3) @ Pacers (6-2), Sat 1/9/21

Post by Mori Chu » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:16 am

Shouldn't Gobert have to knock a few mil off his new contract on account of the fact that he basically got the whole NBA 2020 season shut down?

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Re: Game Day: Suns (6-3) @ Pacers (6-2), Sat 1/9/21

Post by djy2j » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:51 am

Mori Chu wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:16 am
Shouldn't Gobert have to knock a few mil off his new contract on account of the fact that he basically got the whole NBA 2020 season shut down?
Yes. Ill never forget how big of a piece of shit he was and him touching all those mics. Then Covid broke out.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (6-3) @ Pacers (6-2), Sat 1/9/21

Post by Mori Chu » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:11 am

I was half-kidding, since I'm sure COVID would have hit the NBA in spring 2020 anyway. But Gobert really blew it.

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