Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

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Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Danimal » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:37 pm

Discussions for how we view the progress of rooks and 2nd year players around the league. Any surprises? Any disappointments?

So far for me:
- I think edwards will be just fine
- Lamelo already gets a stupid amount of media attention. They had a game against the magic and from the highlights I thought they won...they did not.
- wiseman looked good early. Anyone been following him
- I think P Williams for the bulls looks a lot less raw than I thought he might be from his college highlights. Much better handle and Stroke.

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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Split T » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:31 am

So far I’d say this class is shaping up to be better than expected. Like you said, Edwards is fine, he may not be a superstar, but he doesn’t look like Dion Waiters. Wiseman has looked really good. LaMelo looks much more ready for the nba than I thought. Became the youngest ever to record a triple double last night. Kinda funny that the two youngest previously were Markelle Fultz and Lonzo.

Then you have guys like Tyrese Haliburton and Deni Avdija who have also looked very good. Tyrese Maxey, Desmond Bane.

I’m not really sure what Okoro and Toppin have done, haven’t followed them much. Okungwu and Smith haven’t really played yet. I’m sure I’m missing some good ones. Oh, Cole Anthony has looked good.
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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by ShelC » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:43 am

Rooks all seem fine so far. LaMelo looks like he's got star potential but the roster is still a mess. Edwards and Wiseman have looked OK. Haliiburton has come on and looked good with an all around game. Toppin's been hurt, Maxey blew up yesterday, Vassell and Nesmith have been quiet but Payton Pritchard is getting time in Boston. Cole Anthony should get better with time in Orlando. Saddiq Bey has has some nice games in Detroit. He would've been a good fit here.

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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Mori Chu » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:33 pm

It's too early to say that we blew it by drafting Jalen Smith. But it doesn't look good so far. Halliburton legitimately looks like one of the best players in this year's draft, and he was right there when we picked. This one may haunt us.

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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Charlie Smithy! » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:53 pm

Luka will haunt us, Trey will haunt us, Hakeem still haunts us, Paxson haunts us, we are haunted. :(

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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by In2ition » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:03 pm

When everyone talked about this past draft being incredibly deep at the PG position, it felt really bad to reach on a skinny PF/C.
"30 wins would be an extremely disappointing season" yeah, I said it and I mean it.

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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Superbone » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:15 pm

Let it go, folks. It is what it is.
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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by In2ition » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:27 pm

Hoping for the best.
"30 wins would be an extremely disappointing season" yeah, I said it and I mean it.

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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Superbone » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:06 pm

In2ition wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:27 pm
Hoping for the best.
Yup, same. FOMO is a thing but nothing we can do about it in these cases so all we can do is hope it works out.
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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Mori Chu » Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:45 am

Yeah, let's get back to what we're best at: bashing Ayton!!

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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Danimal » Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:10 am

It seems harsh to dump on smith already given his entire 5 mins of playing time.
There is going to be a bunch of rooks who blow up unexpectedly this year because of extra playing time due to COVID - see maxey 76ers.

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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Atreides » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:27 am

Charlie Smithy! wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:53 pm
Luka will haunt us, Trey will haunt us, Hakeem still haunts us, Paxson haunts us, we are haunted. :(
Screw that, let's just go for that championship and be gone with it ;)
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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Atreides » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:30 am

Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:45 am
Yeah, let's get back to what we're best at: bashing Ayton!!
Yeah, let's beat this drum. Maybe then he'll know how to bang down low :roll:
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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Atreides » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:38 am

Can we at least appreciate what we have right now? I think Smith will be fine as a stretch 4. I'm still thinking who he reminds me of, hmm... Turner?
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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by virtual9mm » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:09 am

Atreides wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:38 am
Can we at least appreciate what we have right now? I think Smith will be fine as a stretch 4. I'm still thinking who he reminds me of, hmm... Turner?
A smaller but more agile Frye. I'll take that.

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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by bajanguy008 » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:53 am

as the saying sometime goes "Patrick Williams comes into the league already with a grown man's body" , tuned in to watching (Zach) but yea yung fella physically looks the part for sure and I think last night was the first game his shooting/scoring complimented his defense/hustle. think he played well
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Re: Rookie and Sophomore Watch 20/21 season

Post by Atreides » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:48 pm

virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:09 am
Atreides wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:38 am
Can we at least appreciate what we have right now? I think Smith will be fine as a stretch 4. I'm still thinking who he reminds me of, hmm... Turner?
A smaller but more agile Frye. I'll take that.
Yeah, that's ok for me too ;) . But i think he's playing tougher than Frye, especially on the defensive end.
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