Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

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Post by Split T » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:29 am

That’s good to hear...hate injuries
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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by BAMF » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:04 am

Good news I like him a lot so glad its not a bad injury

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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by Indy » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:50 am

Let's hope his recovery goes as expected. That looked dangerous.

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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by INFORMER » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:04 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:46 pm
I'm not sure of the benefit of that move for the Hawks. Maybe he's lost the locker room, but there are a lot of young guys and fresh FA's on that roster.
And both of their big price tag FAs have struggled.

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Post by Mori Chu » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:21 pm

Poor Dudley. Possible that he'll retire?


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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by bajanguy008 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:53 pm



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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by SunsRIt » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:08 pm

bajanguy008 wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:53 pm


One of my least favorite basketball players ever. Nothing more than a chucker.

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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by Indy » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:47 pm

SunsRIt wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:08 pm
bajanguy008 wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:53 pm
One of my least favorite basketball players ever. Nothing more than a chucker.
It is amazing how similar these stats are.

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Player            From   To  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Carmelo Anthony   2004 2021 8.5 19.0 .447 1.3 3.8 .351 7.2 15.2 .472 5.4 6.6 .813 6.5 2.9 1.0 0.5 2.6 2.9 23.7
Devin Booker      2016 2021 8.4 18.6 .453 2.1 5.9 .355 6.3 12.7 .499 5.4 6.2 .868 3.9 5.0 0.8 0.3 3.5 3.3 24.4
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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:24 pm

Carmelo Anthony had his flaws as a star player, but a "chucker" wasn't really one of them. At least not very often.
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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by Mori Chu » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:58 am

Indy wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:47 pm
It is amazing how similar these stats are.

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Player            From   To  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Carmelo Anthony   2004 2021 8.5 19.0 .447 1.3 3.8 .351 7.2 15.2 .472 5.4 6.6 .813 6.5 2.9 1.0 0.5 2.6 2.9 23.7
Devin Booker      2016 2021 8.4 18.6 .453 2.1 5.9 .355 6.3 12.7 .499 5.4 6.2 .868 3.9 5.0 0.8 0.3 3.5 3.3 24.4
Wow, that is stunning. I don't think of them as similar players, but there it is in the stats. I'd still much rather have Booker, though. :-) And I'm curious what Melo's stats would look like for just the past 4-5 years; probably not so rosy.

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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by Oatmeal » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:27 pm

Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:58 am
Indy wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:47 pm
It is amazing how similar these stats are.

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Player            From   To  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Carmelo Anthony   2004 2021 8.5 19.0 .447 1.3 3.8 .351 7.2 15.2 .472 5.4 6.6 .813 6.5 2.9 1.0 0.5 2.6 2.9 23.7
Devin Booker      2016 2021 8.4 18.6 .453 2.1 5.9 .355 6.3 12.7 .499 5.4 6.2 .868 3.9 5.0 0.8 0.3 3.5 3.3 24.4
Wow, that is stunning. I don't think of them as similar players, but there it is in the stats. I'd still much rather have Booker, though. :-) And I'm curious what Melo's stats would look like for just the past 4-5 years; probably not so rosy.
To be fair his past 4 or 5 years are post prime years, most guys don't look rosy in that part of their careers.

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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by Oatmeal » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:28 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:24 pm
Carmelo Anthony had his flaws as a star player, but a "chucker" wasn't really one of them. At least not very often.
RIght? Dude was a hooper, could score on you pretty anywhere on the floor.

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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by Indy » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:37 pm

Oatmeal wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:27 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:58 am
Indy wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:47 pm
It is amazing how similar these stats are.

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Player            From   To  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Carmelo Anthony   2004 2021 8.5 19.0 .447 1.3 3.8 .351 7.2 15.2 .472 5.4 6.6 .813 6.5 2.9 1.0 0.5 2.6 2.9 23.7
Devin Booker      2016 2021 8.4 18.6 .453 2.1 5.9 .355 6.3 12.7 .499 5.4 6.2 .868 3.9 5.0 0.8 0.3 3.5 3.3 24.4
Wow, that is stunning. I don't think of them as similar players, but there it is in the stats. I'd still much rather have Booker, though. :-) And I'm curious what Melo's stats would look like for just the past 4-5 years; probably not so rosy.
To be fair his past 4 or 5 years are post prime years, most guys don't look rosy in that part of their careers.
Yeah, Carmelo is almost a year older than Chris Paul, and about 18 months younger than... Amare.

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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by Split T » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:26 pm



CJ was having a phenomenal season. What Portland can do at full strength will be interesting. Defense still gonna be their issue.
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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by pickle » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:50 pm

Oatmeal wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:27 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:58 am
Indy wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:47 pm
It is amazing how similar these stats are.

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Player            From   To  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
Carmelo Anthony   2004 2021 8.5 19.0 .447 1.3 3.8 .351 7.2 15.2 .472 5.4 6.6 .813 6.5 2.9 1.0 0.5 2.6 2.9 23.7
Devin Booker      2016 2021 8.4 18.6 .453 2.1 5.9 .355 6.3 12.7 .499 5.4 6.2 .868 3.9 5.0 0.8 0.3 3.5 3.3 24.4
Wow, that is stunning. I don't think of them as similar players, but there it is in the stats. I'd still much rather have Booker, though. :-) And I'm curious what Melo's stats would look like for just the past 4-5 years; probably not so rosy.
To be fair his past 4 or 5 years are post prime years, most guys don't look rosy in that part of their careers.
Well said. What I wonder in the what-if scenario is how Carmelo would have fared in today's NBA if he's 25 now instead of 36. If he is clearly defined as your four who can go into the post or iso, he might be an even more potent scorer than he was in those Denver/New York days. People probably pick on his lack of rebounding less, and he is probably more likely to rack up assists.

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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by Split T » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:01 pm

He’d shoot a lot less long 2s. Honestly prime Melo would be a fantastic scorer. Put a big on him and he’d smoke them off the dribble. Put a wing on him and he’d punish them getting to the rim.
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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by O_Gardino » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:29 am

Melo's problem was never the position he played or the offence he played in. He was just always very lazy about where he took his shots and how he played. He never payed attention to detail on either end of the court, and he settled for the first shot too often. He was/is so talented that he got away with it, but if Booker had his body he would shoot 55% for his career.
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Re: Around the League: Week 11 3/1-3/7

Post by pickle » Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:57 pm

Sure, and I guess I wonder if in this age of analytics where the long 2 is so maligned and 3 pointers so celebrated that he would at least take a step back and become a 3 point threat, which would have opened up a lot of passing for himself and for his teammates, and therefore his total impact would have been greater. These are pure theoretical exercises anyway, so ... yeah.

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