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LazarusLong
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by LazarusLong » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:32 pm
pickle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:02 pm
Bagley's little brother might come out for this draft.
He'd be a second rounder, at best.
He shot less than 40% for an underperforming ASU team.
Played in 12 games, averaging about 11 pts. and 6 rebs.
He might want to stay another year at ASU, play a full season and make a better showing.
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by Split T » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:35 pm
ESPN does have him 25th on their prospect list
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by AmareIsGod » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:38 pm
carey wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:49 pm
I can see Bagley leaving Sac and all of a sudden becoming good.
Yeah. Since, you know, playing in a different area code magically heals your propensity to always being injured.
I don't think it's ever been a question of offensive talent. It's been an inability at the NBA level to stay on the court without injury.
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by AmareIsGod » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:38 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:35 pm
ESPN does have him 25th on their prospect list
Must be an extremely weak draft class.
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by LazarusLong » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:39 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:35 pm
ESPN does have him 25th on their prospect list
Must be a thin draft.
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by Split T » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:48 pm
I’m really not super informed on the draft, but I’ve heard it’s fairly deep. But I haven’t watched Bagley for even a minute, so I really have no idea why he’s 25.
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by Split T » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:50 pm
Brooklyn and NO don’t make the top 15 defense list, but Suns have the best offense of the top 15 defenses since feb 1st
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by Split T » Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:26 pm
Rockets snapped their 20 game losing streak. Beat the raptors who are on their own 9 game losing streak. Seems like the raptors are gonna tank. I expect Lowry to be moved.
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by pickle » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:02 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:20 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:55 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:50 pm
The crazy thing is, as inconsistent and injury plagued as Bagley has been, Mo Bamba and Wendell Carter Jr have been just as bad, if not worse in both respects.
I think Mikal is the only guy from that draft to play in every game since being drafted. And half of the top 10 have missed significant time (Ayton, Bagley, JJJ, Bamba, Carter).
I wonder how a redraft would go?
I’d guess the top 7 would go:
1. Luka
2. SGA
3. Trae
4. JJJ
5. Mikal
6. MPJ
7. Ayton
Am I missing someone? Am I too low on MPJ? Even with Bagley, Carter, and Bamba being misses so far, that’s a solid top 7. And you can’t write those guys off yet.
Collin Sexton, Mitchell Robinson, and Miles Bridges are also good players. Then you also have DiVencenzo, Graham, Trent, Milton, Melton, Shamet, Walker IV, Huerter, and Okogie. Really solid draft.
I'm not that high on Trae, and at this point, I might take Ayton over JJJ given the fact that JJJ can't stay healthy. He's become a reasonable facsimile of Porzingis. I'd say Miles Bridges has disappointed. I like Huerter. If Carter doesn't develop and doesn't get a huge offer from someone taking a "redraft" chance on him, I certainly don't mind having him back up Ayton.
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by pickle » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:03 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:48 pm
I’m really not super informed on the draft, but I’ve heard it’s fairly deep. But I haven’t watched Bagley for even a minute, so I really have no idea why he’s 25.
I read/heard that he's a solid and versatile defender at 6'8 with good build. Those guys always get a look.
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by Split T » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:27 pm
pickle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:02 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:20 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:55 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:50 pm
The crazy thing is, as inconsistent and injury plagued as Bagley has been, Mo Bamba and Wendell Carter Jr have been just as bad, if not worse in both respects.
I think Mikal is the only guy from that draft to play in every game since being drafted. And half of the top 10 have missed significant time (Ayton, Bagley, JJJ, Bamba, Carter).
I wonder how a redraft would go?
I’d guess the top 7 would go:
1. Luka
2. SGA
3. Trae
4. JJJ
5. Mikal
6. MPJ
7. Ayton
Am I missing someone? Am I too low on MPJ? Even with Bagley, Carter, and Bamba being misses so far, that’s a solid top 7. And you can’t write those guys off yet.
Collin Sexton, Mitchell Robinson, and Miles Bridges are also good players. Then you also have DiVencenzo, Graham, Trent, Milton, Melton, Shamet, Walker IV, Huerter, and Okogie. Really solid draft.
I'm not that high on Trae, and at this point, I might take Ayton over JJJ given the fact that JJJ can't stay healthy. He's become a reasonable facsimile of Porzingis. I'd say Miles Bridges has disappointed. I like Huerter. If Carter doesn't develop and doesn't get a huge offer from someone taking a "redraft" chance on him, I certainly don't mind having him back up Ayton.
Ya I’m not particularly high on Trae either, but I was trying to pick how I thought GM’s would draft...not my personal preference.
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by Wally_West » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:30 pm
What about Jevon Carter, Jalen Smith and 2nd for Bagley?
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by Split T » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:37 pm
He’s hurt...no reason to trade for him right now. Not sure he does anything for us anyways.
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by pickle » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:48 pm
Clippers come back from a 20 point deficit with Luke Kennard leading the charge. Wonder if they are showcasing him for a Lowry offer...
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by Flagrant Fowl » Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:20 am
Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:30 pm
What about Jevon Carter, Jalen Smith and 2nd for Bagley?
Neither of those guys play, so who's minutes would Bagley take?
I don't think it would be smart to have Bagley and Ayton at the same time.
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by Superbone » Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:47 am
Oh, man. Marty is going to be soooo jealous.
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by Mori Chu » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:36 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:47 am
Oh, man. Marty is going to be soooo jealous.
I want his shorts, not his shirt!!
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by Superbone » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:24 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:36 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:47 am
Oh, man. Marty is going to be soooo jealous.
I want his shorts, not his shirt!!
Bart Simpson's "Eat my shorts!" takes another meaning for you.
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by INFORMER » Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:52 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:13 am
I’m still really confused why they wanted Oladipo over LaVert...or why they didn’t want Allen.
I get not wanting LaVert if they didn't want the financial obligation to a player with LaVert's injury history. But I have no idea why they wouldn't Allen? Just because he doesn't shoot 3s?