Around the League: Regular Season Week 1 (10/19 - 10/25)

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Thought this was pretty funny, Harrell's a guy I wish we could've brought in at some point







Duarte looks like he'll be pretty good


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Atlanta is just demolishing Dallas right now on TNT. I think they're going to be really good this year. Very deep young team.

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Also, Dallas isn't as good as a lot of people think they should be.
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:33 pm
Also, Dallas isn't as good as a lot of people think they should be.
They never were. Kidd will do more harm than good in Dallas. Might not have been the best year to draft Luka?

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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:33 pm
Also, Dallas isn't as good as a lot of people think they should be.
Yeah I think they are overrated in general. People are underestimating the Porzingis drama. He doesn't mesh with Luka and it's going to be a problem for them.

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Dallas has a talent problem. Most of their roster consists of players who are being expected to perform beyond their abilities.
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:56 pm
Dallas has a talent problem. Most of their roster consists of players who are being expected to perform beyond their abilities.
Yup. And Carlisle was a coach who could bring that out of them, or at least make the pieces fit. Kidd is not that dude.

I don't know what they were thinking with that hire. Not just from a coaching standpoint. It was pretty tone-deaf for an organization that had a massive scandal around treatment of women just a few years back to hire someone with a history of spousal abuse.

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Shabazz wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:37 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:56 pm
Dallas has a talent problem. Most of their roster consists of players who are being expected to perform beyond their abilities.
Yup. And Carlisle was a coach who could bring that out of them, or at least make the pieces fit. Kidd is not that dude.

I don't know what they were thinking with that hire. Not just from a coaching standpoint. It was pretty tone-deaf for an organization that had a massive scandal around treatment of women just a few years back to hire someone with a history of spousal abuse.
I think you answered your own question there. Probably not an accident that an org with a shitty reputation for how they treat women would hire a shitty person like Kidd who beats his spouse.

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But also very strange that Cuban has the public profile that he does, for his team to have such massive scandals and be this tone deaf...

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There's nobody on the court over 6'8 in this Warriors Clippers game...

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The GSW/LAC game was fun until the end when Paul George hit a late three-pointer that ruined my 3-game parlay.

I also don't know how Draymond Green can be one of the smartest players in the league but still shoot 2/9 from the free-throw line.
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Indy wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:47 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:37 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:56 pm
Dallas has a talent problem. Most of their roster consists of players who are being expected to perform beyond their abilities.
Yup. And Carlisle was a coach who could bring that out of them, or at least make the pieces fit. Kidd is not that dude.

I don't know what they were thinking with that hire. Not just from a coaching standpoint. It was pretty tone-deaf for an organization that had a massive scandal around treatment of women just a few years back to hire someone with a history of spousal abuse.
I think you answered your own question there. Probably not an accident that an org with a shitty reputation for how they treat women would hire a shitty person like Kidd who beats his spouse.
But this hire came after all the fallout, restructuring, public apologies, etc. It wouldn't be surprising if he was part of the old organization before they got busted. You'd think they were extra sensitive about this stuff at this point.

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Suns loss has less sting for me after seeing the Heat dismantle the Bucks last night ... :shock: :shock: :shock:
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?

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We have been fortunate to have had Al here. Some of his successors on the television side have made me appreciate him even more.

Good luck on your 50th season with the Suns Al!

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Al is a living legend!
"Be Legendary."

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Superbone wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:55 am
Al is a living legend!
Al and Cotton were probably my favorite Suns' announcing team, but I really liked Al and Dick Van Arsdale too.

Hot Rod Hundley had already left by the time I started listening to the games on the radio.

Hard to believe he was already 39 when he joined the Suns and is still going strong at 88!
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The Bobster wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:59 am
Superbone wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:55 am
Al is a living legend!
Al and Cotton were probably my favorite Suns' announcing team, but I really liked Al and Dick Van Arsdale too.

Hot Rod Hundley had already left by the time I started listening to the games on the radio.

Hard to believe he was already 39 when he joined the Suns and is still going strong at 88!
It is and he is! How great is it to do what you love so late in life?
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I remember Al from his days of broadcasting Phoenix Giants' games.

Suns duties went from Bob Vache' to Rod Hundley, to Hundley and Red Kerr (after he got removed as coach) to Joe McConnell.
Al took over when McConnell left to do Pacers and Vikings games.
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The Bobster wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:54 am
We have been fortunate to have had Al here. Some of his successors on the television side have made me appreciate him even more.

Good luck on your 50th season with the Suns Al!

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It's pretty funny that the image in your post was posted by Al's son, who himself is already an old man. That's how long Al has been doing this; even his kid is grandpa-aged and he's still going (mostly) strong. A Suns legend.

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Shabazz wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:55 pm
Indy wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:47 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:37 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:56 pm
Dallas has a talent problem. Most of their roster consists of players who are being expected to perform beyond their abilities.
Yup. And Carlisle was a coach who could bring that out of them, or at least make the pieces fit. Kidd is not that dude.

I don't know what they were thinking with that hire. Not just from a coaching standpoint. It was pretty tone-deaf for an organization that had a massive scandal around treatment of women just a few years back to hire someone with a history of spousal abuse.
I think you answered your own question there. Probably not an accident that an org with a shitty reputation for how they treat women would hire a shitty person like Kidd who beats his spouse.
But this hire came after all the fallout, restructuring, public apologies, etc. It wouldn't be surprising if he was part of the old organization before they got busted. You'd think they were extra sensitive about this stuff at this point.
The guy at the top hasn't changed.

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