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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:35 am
by Flagrant Fowl
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:52 pm
I'm very happy to see that none of the knee-jerk Ayton trades proposed by the fans came to fruition. Unless there's actually a good trade out there, I say that the Suns simply match an Ayton offer.
An Ayton trade was never going to happen during the draft, so you were probably worried for no reason.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:37 am
by Flagrant Fowl
I was so excited for Louis King going into his freshman and only season at Oregon. He's always looked the part, but hasn't been able to figure it out. Kinda reminds me of Earl Clark.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:27 am
by ShelC
Disappointed but not surprised. I just don't think this front office values the draft, at least not while we're winning and the roster is more or less set. Midway thru the 1st round I felt like all the "trying to buy into the draft" would end up being BS. Also felt like Jones' remarks after the draft were some damage control after that ESPN article. And now all of a sudden Gambo is getting info from the FO when he's been shut out since Jones took over? Seems a bit odd.
I get not wanting to waste money or assets on a guy who may be at the end of the bench and not part of the rotation, but we're not going to win forever and teams are already getting better, longer, more athletic (Portland, Houston, NOLA). We did stuff like this during the 7SOL era and it bit us. Passing on the draft always seems shortsighted to me.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:20 am
by Mori Chu
ShelC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:27 am
Disappointed but not surprised. I just don't think this front office values the draft, at least not while we're winning and the roster is more or less set. Midway thru the 1st round I felt like all the "trying to buy into the draft" would end up being BS. Also felt like Jones' remarks after the draft were some damage control after that ESPN article. And now all of a sudden Gambo is getting info from the FO when he's been shut out since Jones took over? Seems a bit odd.
I get not wanting to waste money or assets on a guy who may be at the end of the bench and not part of the rotation, but we're not going to win forever and teams are already getting better, longer, more athletic (Portland, Houston, NOLA). We did stuff like this during the 7SOL era and it bit us. Passing on the draft always seems shortsighted to me.
But at least we got LANDRY SHAMET with our draft pick!
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:35 am
by TOO
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:20 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:27 am
Disappointed but not surprised. I just don't think this front office values the draft, at least not while we're winning and the roster is more or less set. Midway thru the 1st round I felt like all the "trying to buy into the draft" would end up being BS. Also felt like Jones' remarks after the draft were some damage control after that ESPN article. And now all of a sudden Gambo is getting info from the FO when he's been shut out since Jones took over? Seems a bit odd.
I get not wanting to waste money or assets on a guy who may be at the end of the bench and not part of the rotation, but we're not going to win forever and teams are already getting better, longer, more athletic (Portland, Houston, NOLA). We did stuff like this during the 7SOL era and it bit us. Passing on the draft always seems shortsighted to me.
But at least we got LANDRY SHAMET with our draft pick!
PROVEN WIN NOW NBA PLAYER LANDRY SHAMET!
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:51 am
by The Bobster
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:20 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:27 am
Disappointed but not surprised. I just don't think this front office values the draft, at least not while we're winning and the roster is more or less set. Midway thru the 1st round I felt like all the "trying to buy into the draft" would end up being BS. Also felt like Jones' remarks after the draft were some damage control after that ESPN article. And now all of a sudden Gambo is getting info from the FO when he's been shut out since Jones took over? Seems a bit odd.
I get not wanting to waste money or assets on a guy who may be at the end of the bench and not part of the rotation, but we're not going to win forever and teams are already getting better, longer, more athletic (Portland, Houston, NOLA). We did stuff like this during the 7SOL era and it bit us. Passing on the draft always seems shortsighted to me.
But at least we got LANDRY SHAMET with our draft pick!
That and the right to pay him $10 million a year.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:54 am
by Flagrant Fowl
Landry Shamet nor his contract are a problem.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:04 am
by Wally_West
I’m not worked up that we couldn’t trade into the draft. The 4 players James Jones had on his draft board were long gone by mid second round and I don’t think there was any other players worth trading for that Monty was cool with cream pieing his daughter. It is what it is.
It’s better we save our assets for potentially bigger fish anyway. *cough* KD *cough*
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:51 pm
by The Bobster
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:54 am
Landry Shamet nor his contract are a problem.
They're also not part of any kind of solution unless you can find a deal where we throw him in as filler.
He really has only one outstanding skill, and his doesn't do that enough to make him a dependable rotation player.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:12 pm
by TOO
The Bobster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:54 am
Landry Shamet nor his contract are a problem.
They're also not part of any kind of solution unless you can find a deal where we throw him in as filler.
He really has only one outstanding skill, and his doesn't do that enough to make him a dependable rotation player.
I guess it's not outstanding then?
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:51 pm
by specialsauce
Shamet is a 9th man making 6th man money. Poor resource allocation
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:58 pm
by Indy
Landry took the most 3PA/36 of any rotation player on the team and hit them as well as anyone except CamJ/Book. The problem is he was our #1 scoring option off the bench for our back court. He needed to take more shots.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:00 pm
by Indy
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:51 pm
Shamet is a 9th man making 6th man money. Poor resource allocation
Not this season. He was making <4M. Next year is when he starts making 7th/8th man money at the MLE level (9.6M).
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:09 pm
by bajanguy008
Just wanna show Melton some love
He catches my eye more often than not when we played the Grizz and he's far from the hesitant to shoot dude he was while he was here.
I have no issues with that trade
His 3pt shot was off in the playoffs so the highlights are a little flattering but the shot selection alone shows a guy playing totally different confidence wise. His D is obviously still crazy
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:18 pm
by specialsauce
Indy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:00 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:51 pm
Shamet is a 9th man making 6th man money. Poor resource allocation
Not this season. He was making <4M. Next year is when he starts making 7th/8th man money at the MLE level (9.6M).
Alkkkkshualllyyyyyy.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:19 pm
by specialsauce
Indy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:58 pm
Landry took the most 3PA/36 of any rotation player on the team and hit them as well as anyone except CamJ/Book. The problem is he was our #1 scoring option off the bench for our back court. He needed to take more shots.
He’s paid to be our #1 scoring option off the bench. So therefore it is the expectation.
Don’t Akshually me.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:52 pm
by Shabazz
bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:09 pm
Just wanna show Melton some love
He catches my eye more often than not when we played the Grizz and he's far from the hesitant to shoot dude he was while he was here.
I have no issues with that trade
His 3pt shot was off in the playoffs so the highlights are a little flattering but the shot selection alone shows a guy playing totally different confidence wise. His D is obviously still crazy
That was an awful James Jones trade.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:33 pm
by Wally_West
Is Landry Shamet better than Jevon Carter? Yes.
But how much better?
Is Shamet “trade a 1st round pick” better than Carter? I’m not sure, and the fact that we could’ve gotten Herb Jones, a solid rotation piece, who could’ve also been extra asset for a trade, is terrible. James Jones last 2 drafts have actually been detrimental to this team’s future. The missed Haliburton pick is gonna haunt this franchise. I don’t know what realistically Jones could’ve done last night but his draft night decisions in general are extremely worrisome.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:42 pm
by djy2j
Wally_West wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:04 am
I’m not worked up that we couldn’t trade into the draft. The 4 players James Jones had on his draft board were long gone by mid second round and I don’t think there was any other players worth trading for that Monty was cool with cream pieing his daughter. It is what it is.
It’s better we save our assets for potentially bigger fish anyway. *cough* KD *cough*
I'm more annoyed that they don't even seem to take the draft seriously. They barely even fill out a Summer League roster and when they do it's with a bunch of upper 20 year olds who can't even kick it in the GLeague. This team is strapped for cash and has several needs to fill. Wouldn't it be ideal to find something of use on a rookie minimum contract if possible?
Ron Harper Jr, Kofi Kockburn, Johnny Juzang, Trevion Williams, Brady Manek. These are all undrafted dudes who excelled at a high level of college ball. You're telling me James Jones knows for a fact that they aren't going to be good in the NBA? I call BS.
Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:19 pm
by Indy
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:18 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:00 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:51 pm
Shamet is a 9th man making 6th man money. Poor resource allocation
Not this season. He was making <4M. Next year is when he starts making 7th/8th man money at the MLE level (9.6M).
Alkkkkshualllyyyyyy.
When you are wrong you are wrong.