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Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:17 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:19 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Now what?
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:20 pm
by JeremyG
We celebrate?
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:57 am
by Nodack
Does he even want to be here anymore? What happened at the end of the season when there was that meltdown in game seven? He supposedly refused to enter the game in the second half. Monty said it was “internal” whatever that means. Is he pissed the Suns wouldn’t sign him to a max deal and took his revenge in a game seven in the playoffs? If any of that is true do the Suns want a guy like that anymore? What does that do to our supposedly great team chemistry?
We celebrate? I am definitely not celebrating anything Suns right now. A part of my fandom for the Suns died during game seven. Was it injuries? Was it “internal”? Was it Covid? Maybe they don’t owe us fans an explanation. I think they do. They were booed off the court by their fans who adored them before the game. It was a total beatdown and the Suns showed zero fight as if they didn’t care at that point.
I feels like we had our chance and it is now gone for another decade at least.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:05 pm
by JeremyG
Nodack wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:57 am
Does he even want to be here anymore? What happened at the end of the season when there was that meltdown in game seven? He supposedly refused to enter the game in the second half. Monty said it was “internal” whatever that means. Is he pissed the Suns wouldn’t sign him to a max deal and took his revenge in a game seven in the playoffs? If any of that is true do the Suns want a guy like that anymore? What does that do to our supposedly great team chemistry?
We celebrate? I am definitely not celebrating anything Suns right now. A part of my fandom for the Suns died during game seven. Was it injuries? Was it “internal”? Was it Covid? Maybe they don’t owe us fans an explanation. I think they do. They were booed off the court by their fans who adored them before the game. It was a total beatdown and the Suns showed zero fight as if they didn’t care at that point.
I feels like we had our chance and it is now gone for another decade at least.
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:55 pm
He was not asked to go back in. And he was not asked if he wanted to go back in (at any particular point). As he was taking him out of the game, Monty asked if he wanted to play anymore and he said no. That's what I recall being reported when it happened (and I think whoever reported it was implying that Monty didn't think DA was acting like he wanted to be out there on the court [probably mainly that one closeout situation] before taking him out and asking him that). Since then people seem to have twisted it.
And we were down 70-32, by 38 points, when he was taken out at 8:26 left in the third quarter.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:32 am
by Mori Chu
If you think Ayton lost us Game 7 vs the Mavs, we must have been watching different games.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:08 am
by Nodack
I don’t think Ayton lost the game for us by not going back in. I heard he refused to go back in the game and that doesn’t sit well with me. It didn’t sit well with the coach apparently either.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:52 am
by Indy
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:32 am
If you think Ayton lost us Game 7 vs the Mavs, we must have been watching different games.
nobody has ever said that.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:19 am
by JeremyG
Here’s the original tweet:
So apparently Monty thought that DA looked like he wasn’t interested in being out there anymore, so while Booker was shooting his free throws he asked him if he even wanted to play anymore and he said nope and he took him out.
He never asked him to go back in.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:22 am
by Indy
You are doing a lot of work to try and justify a shitty moment from Ayton. It is OK to just say it was a shitty day, with shitty coaching and shitty playing and shitty attitudes. And everyone made mistakes.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:31 am
by JeremyG
I’m not trying to justify it. I just keep seeing a false version of the story spreading around and want the record clear.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:34 am
by Indy
He told the coach he didn't want to play anymore...
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:38 am
by JeremyG
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:34 am
He told the coach he didn't want to play anymore...
Correct. When asked. According to one fan lip reading.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:47 am
by Indy
Why do you think people had to get between them?
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:00 am
by JeremyG
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:47 am
Why do you think people had to get between them?
Because after he took him out, Monty said “You freakin’ quit on us.” And DA said, “I can’t pass myself the ball.” Then Monty said, “What did you say?” And the staff stopped him from approaching DA.
Re: Suns Match Pacers Offer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:39 am
by TOO
Relying on lip reading lol. Athletes are giant babies, pretty much all of them, coaches too. Shit happens in the heat of the moment, everything will be ok. Ayton doesn't look great here no matter how it's presented, Monty gets himself in plenty of trouble when it comes to actually coaching and adjusting, both are probably at fault here.