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Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:09 am
by Superbone
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:07 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:55 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:38 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:35 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:22 pm


Dude!
I’d rather Mike James, Isaiah Canaan or Josh Grey.
F you smoking
Than Elfrid? I’d rather a colonoscopy without anesthesia than watching another minute of Elfrid.
Oh no you wouldn't. Had a coworker that had that happen by accident (massive lawsuit). Fucking horrible.
Some people like that kind of thing.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:10 am
by Superbone
BlaCkAdDa wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:56 am
Split T wrote:
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:13 am
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:08 am
After what went down between he and Book, I don't think it would be a good idea.
What went down between him and Book, I don't recall?
They had some spats in that Laker-Suns series…spilled a little onto social media.
I wouldn't think that's a. Issue

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Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:12 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:05 am
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:20 pm
I’m scared of anesthesia so I would actually choose to have one without.

Benefits of sedation-free colonoscopy
that was interesting. I am a few years away from turning 50.
I've had my first. The anesthesia technology is amazing. I've been under a handful of times. They have it down to a science. They start counting down just a few seconds and you are out. You suddenly come out and it's all over and you have lost time very similar to my alien abductions.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:20 am
by Split T
Propofol, the drug I’ve seen most used for colonoscopies, works really fast, but it also wears off really fast. It’s generally what’s used to keep people sedated while intubated and on a ventilator as well.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:42 am
by SunsRIt
Superbone wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:12 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:05 am
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:20 pm
I’m scared of anesthesia so I would actually choose to have one without.

Benefits of sedation-free colonoscopy
that was interesting. I am a few years away from turning 50.
I've had my first. The anesthesia technology is amazing. I've been under a handful of times. They have it down to a science. They start counting down just a few seconds and you are out. You suddenly come out and it's all over and you have lost time very similar to my alien abductions.
That’s about how mine went too. Slept like a baby I guess.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:46 pm
by The Bobster
Derrick Rose anybody?

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:50 pm
by Indy
I was just thinking about him yesterday, and couldn't decide if it was the best idea or the worst idea. He shot over 40% from 3 last year on a decent number of attempts for a backup guard.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:24 pm
by Split T
We’d have to move one of our bigger contracts to get him(Shamet, Saric, or Crowder). Say Shamet and a couple 2nds.

Assuming you have to trade Mikal for KD, that trade is probably Mikal, Crowder, Payne + 4 1sts.


Paul/Booker/CamJ/KD/Ayton
Rose/Lee/Okogie/Craig/Saric
?/?/Wainright/Landale/Biyombo

Not terrible. You could also maybe trade Saric instead of Crowder.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:21 pm
by Indy
I think you need more than Shamet to make it happen because he makes 14.5. So the low end is 11.6M. The high end is 18.1.

He also is kind of expiring because he has a team option for next year.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:59 pm
by JeremyG
Superbone wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:12 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:05 am
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:20 pm
I’m scared of anesthesia so I would actually choose to have one without.

Benefits of sedation-free colonoscopy
that was interesting. I am a few years away from turning 50.
I've had my first. The anesthesia technology is amazing. I've been under a handful of times. They have it down to a science. They start counting down just a few seconds and you are out. You suddenly come out and it's all over and you have lost time very similar to my alien abductions.
I had a bad experience with anesthesia as a kid, and I guess I'm just scared of never waking up from it. I have actually had abdominal surgery (double hernia repair) with just local anesthesia--zero sedation and zero pain meds afterward. :P

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:11 pm
by Split T
Indy wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:21 pm
I think you need more than Shamet to make it happen because he makes 14.5. So the low end is 11.6M. The high end is 18.1.

He also is kind of expiring because he has a team option for next year.
You’re right, I was thinking you can take on 5 million, but we’re a tax team so we have to do 125%. At that point we’d have to move two players, though maybe we could add Landale as the 2nd? How quickly can he be traded? Otherwise it means we absolutely have to include Mikal in any KD trade to match salary. I think that would be a pass for me while we wait for KD

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:12 pm
by The Bobster
I would think Shamet and Craig would be a good start for matching Rose's salary.

He's not a great shooter, but he can create offense and should be more efficient off the bench and surrounded by better offensive teammates.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:14 pm
by ShelC
Another guy who plays 30 games every year. Also not sure he'd be a fit personality wise.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:21 pm
by Split T
Ya I think I’d much rather have Clarkson than Rose

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:37 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Yawn

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:41 pm
by Split T
Vladimir_Taltos wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:37 pm
Any reason we wouldn't want Mike Conley? Quick look seems his #s are better on point than most of the names referenced...
I’ve thought about him, but he’s expensive and has money next year too, though not fully guaranteed. We’d have to move multiple players to match his salary and he really was bad to finish the year for Utah. I think he needs to move to a backup role at this point, and he’d be a great fit, but I wish he had Shamet’s contract.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:56 pm
by The Bobster
Conley is too expensive. I would think they wouldn't want to go higher that $15 million and the shorter the contract, the better.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:03 pm
by Indy
yeah, owed 23M this year is a lot of a back up PG that looked bad to end the season. And even if we cut him he is owed 14M next year.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:15 pm
by AmareIsGod
Superbone wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:12 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:05 am
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:20 pm
I’m scared of anesthesia so I would actually choose to have one without.

Benefits of sedation-free colonoscopy
that was interesting. I am a few years away from turning 50.
I've had my first. The anesthesia technology is amazing. I've been under a handful of times. They have it down to a science. They start counting down just a few seconds and you are out. You suddenly come out and it's all over and you have lost time very similar to my alien abductions.
Same. Had mine about a year ago at 37. My dad had colon cancer when he was 47 so I was able to get one when I did. I was out then groggy and awake. It was nuts.

Re: Solving the Backup PG Concern

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:14 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Yawn