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Indy wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:00 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:25 am
Indy wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:49 am
I think it will linger.
If you were a betting man, what lingers longer? The Jae Crowder trade happening or Ayton / Monty getting smoothed over?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jae technically on the roster at Christmas.

I think there will be bad blood between Ayton and Monty for a long time. Coaches don't easily forget when players quit on their team. And Ayton probably feels like the team/coach quit on him by trying to ship him out last trade deadline, then again all over the place this summer.
Then there should be bad blood between Monty and every player who played in that game.
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JeremyG wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:43 am
Split T wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:41 am
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:11 am
Gambo said he expects the Crowder situation could be resolved by Friday.
How does he know? Does he know if we’re working on anything specific?
I have no idea, but it sounded like he thinks it won't linger.
We give up two firsts to get rid of him. Book it!
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On trade idea that Bobby Marks threw out that I kind of liked was Jae for TJ McConnell and Oshae Brissett.

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Shabazz wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:56 pm
On trade idea that Bobby Marks threw out that I kind of liked was Jae for TJ McConnell and Oshae Brissett.
No doubt we're going to end up with a guy I've never heard of before.
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Not really sure why Indy would want him though. McConnell is a real pg though, which would be nice

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JeremyG wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:31 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:00 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:25 am
Indy wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:49 am
I think it will linger.
If you were a betting man, what lingers longer? The Jae Crowder trade happening or Ayton / Monty getting smoothed over?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jae technically on the roster at Christmas.

I think there will be bad blood between Ayton and Monty for a long time. Coaches don't easily forget when players quit on their team. And Ayton probably feels like the team/coach quit on him by trying to ship him out last trade deadline, then again all over the place this summer.
Then there should be bad blood between Monty and every player who played in that game.
Only one guy refused to go back into the game. Book and CP3 were still going out there in the 4th to take their beating like a team.

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Re: Jae Crowder trade request

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Indy wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:31 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:31 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:00 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:25 am
Indy wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:49 am
I think it will linger.
If you were a betting man, what lingers longer? The Jae Crowder trade happening or Ayton / Monty getting smoothed over?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jae technically on the roster at Christmas.

I think there will be bad blood between Ayton and Monty for a long time. Coaches don't easily forget when players quit on their team. And Ayton probably feels like the team/coach quit on him by trying to ship him out last trade deadline, then again all over the place this summer.
Then there should be bad blood between Monty and every player who played in that game.
Only one guy refused to go back into the game. Book and CP3 were still going out there in the 4th to take their beating like a team.
He never refused to go back into the game.

(It seems like we've had this conversation before. :roll:)
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I prefer that Bulls White deal over any Cavs package. Hopefully Jones is working those phones trying to get the best price for Jae.

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Superbone wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:51 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:43 am
Split T wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:41 am
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:11 am
Gambo said he expects the Crowder situation could be resolved by Friday.
How does he know? Does he know if we’re working on anything specific?
I have no idea, but it sounded like he thinks it won't linger.
We give up two firsts to get rid of him. Book it!
Yep, 2 firsts and cash...just to add salt to the wound...

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I get the White appeal but I’m not as high on him as others. He was a high draft pick and couldn’t really take over the Bulls’ wide open PG spot for the last three years. He’s quite streaky and not necessarily the steady 1 off the bench that can settle a team, more like a Clarkson type that shoots with great confidence, which is useful but I guess I’m hoping for a bit more.

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I'm also not much of a Coby White fan. He's very inconsistent and doesn't really have one elite skill. Being injured recently hasn't helped either, so maybe he'll figure it out in time. Getting him in return as the centerpiece in a Crowder trade wouldn't excite me.
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:28 pm
I'm also not much of a Coby White fan. He's very inconsistent and doesn't really have one elite skill. Being injured recently hasn't helped either, so maybe he'll figure it out in time. Getting him in return as the centerpiece in a Crowder trade wouldn't excite me.
I'm not a huge fan either. And I don't think he really brings anything we need. He's not a strong PG. Not a replacement for Crowder. But, I'll take a decent player versus the even worse alternatives. I'm not expecting a home run or even extra bases.
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Coby White is a statistically similar player to Cam Payne, younger, with arguably a higher ceiling and more possibility to grow into something better. Little bit better shooter by the numbers, but a less frequent passer. Here are some numbers:

White: 12.7 ppg on 43.3/38.5/85.7% splits; 3.0 reb, 2.9 ast in 27.5 mpg; age 22
Payne: 10.8 ppg on 40.9/33.6/84.3% splits; 3.0 reb; 4.9 ast in 22.0 mpg; age 28

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Yep, Cam Payne is a pretty good comp for White. Which is why I wouldn't be excited to exchange Crowder for him.
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I’m mostly with you guys on White, but he did have a stretch last season where he looked really good. Check his Dec-Feb numbers here, particularly his 3 point accuracy and volume: https://www.espn.com/nba/player/splits/ ... coby-white

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Crowder for Tyus Jones?

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Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:00 pm
Crowder for Tyus Jones?
I am pretty sure he just re-signed there.
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Even as one of the main board members of the CamJ fan club 🙂
Still a tad disappointing to see how this situation has played out so hopefully we get a decent piece(s)
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TOO wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:09 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:00 pm
Crowder for Tyus Jones?
I am pretty sure he just re-signed there.
Dude is highly valued there and Grizz never really panic if Ja has to sit and that's alot to do with how steady Tyus is.
Unlikely he would be moved and definitely not to a West contender
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