Jae Crowder trade request
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Is Allen even an improvement on Shamet? Maybe slightly.
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He's got him beat greatly on the annoyance scale.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
- MightyMoog
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Somehow I don't see Monty wanting Grayson to be dating one of his daughters.
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We can do better than Grayson Allen.
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Some interesting stuff in here. I would love to work out a Crowder + stuff for Collins trade. Though it’d probably take multiple 1sts. Also mentions Kuzma, Barnes, and KJ Martin as targets. I like all of those.
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Also some Cam Johnson stuff. He was smart not to take 4/66. He’ll get way more than that.Across the league, multiple teams are tracking the Phoenix Suns in the trade market as they work to find a home for disgruntled forward Jae Crowder. The Milwaukee Bucks and Atlanta Hawks have been engaged with the Suns on a potential Crowder deal in recent weeks and months, but recently there’s been a new wrinkle across the trade landscape.
The Hawks have opened up preliminary trade discussions around forward John Collins, as interested teams inquire, league sources tell The Athletic. The Suns are a team showing desire in Collins, those sources have added, but they appear uninclined to take on the long-term money of Collins, who is in the second season of a five-year, $125 million contract. The Hawks don’t have an imminent deal in place involving Collins, those sources say, and executives around the league believe a potential deal will be weeks and potentially months in the making ahead of the Feb. 9 trade deadline.
The Suns have a handful of first-rounders to move, but given the team’s impending ownership change, it’s also uncertain how many future assets the current regime can move. In addition, the Suns expressed interest in forwards such as Sacramento’s Harrison Barnes, Washington’s Kyle Kuzma and Houston’s KJ Martin, league sources have said.
The Suns engaged in rookie extension negotiations with Cam Johnson prior to the regular season, with a final offer of four years in the range of $66 million, sources say. Phoenix refused to move higher toward the figure Johnson had desired. He is currently sidelined after undergoing surgery to remove part of his right meniscus.
“Negotiations are interesting, especially when ownership is unclear,” Johnson said when the extension deadline expired without a deal. The Suns’ valuable starting forward will now enter restricted free agency in July as one of the most versatile and sought after players in the open market.
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Thought…what if it’s a 3 team deal:
Crowder and 2 1sts to Atlanta
Collins to Washington
Kuzma to Phoenix.
With a 1st coming from each team. Is that fair for everyone? Could switch out Kuzma for Barnes as well. We’d need to add a contract in both cases I believe.
Crowder and 2 1sts to Atlanta
Collins to Washington
Kuzma to Phoenix.
With a 1st coming from each team. Is that fair for everyone? Could switch out Kuzma for Barnes as well. We’d need to add a contract in both cases I believe.
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Collins or Kuzma? What's the preference?
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I'd prefer Kuzma. Better defender, more efficient. But I'd also happily take Collins as well. We need a long term solution at PF, and Cam Johnson isn't it. He's a sixth man and more of a tweener or SF. His body just can't handle playing PF.
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I pretty much agree with this except I'd take Collins over Kuzma.
Johnson is a great third forward, but he's not really going to help you a lot defensively or on the boards against anybody with any size and physicality.
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I still love John Collins I'd leave James Jones alone for at least 2 weeks if he landed Collins for Quitter.
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Why is Kuzma so desired? I'm trying to understand what everyone is thinking.
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Hes just a pretty good basketball player. Would fit the offense very well.
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Ha. What a bargain for Jones!

Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
- wpmiller42
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Collins would be great. And Paul has always done well with rim cutting power forwards.
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Kuz would be a great fit offensively, not sure about his defense and I think some of his off-court stuff might not be what Jones/Monty want to bring in. Not necessarily a negative, but a bit Oubre-esque. I also like Hachimura but he's a bit similar, maybe a little worse.
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Would love to get Collins. But we'd probably have to include multiple 1st round picks. That would likely make it harder for us to be available for any KD trade scenarios. Is that what we want?
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Even though I don't think it's what KD wants, I don't think Brooklyn is going to give him up for any reasonable offer. Like, I think they wouldn't give us KD for anything less than Booker and all our picks. At this point, I think I'm fine moving on from KD. I just think it takes us out of the running for so many more attainable options. I'd love KD, just don't think he's realistically attainable.
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How about this?
Hawks- Ayton, Crowder, Seth Curry
Nets- John Collins, Jalen Johnson, Cam Johnson, Shamet, 4 1st and 2 1st swaps from Suns, 1st from Hawks.
Suns- KD, Capela
Hawks- Ayton, Crowder, Seth Curry
Nets- John Collins, Jalen Johnson, Cam Johnson, Shamet, 4 1st and 2 1st swaps from Suns, 1st from Hawks.
Suns- KD, Capela
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Yeah, I think that may be where I'm landing, too. BKN seems to want teams to just bowl them over with their offers. They probably want us to give them Ayton, Mikal, AND multiple 1sts. I just wouldn't pay that, even for KD. I'd give them maybe Ayton, CamJ, two 1sts. That's already a lot. I think if we give up much more than that, we won't actually have enough to be a title team, and/or will be too hamstrung a decade from now. You can't just trade 5 1sts for one guy. Minnesota is learning that lesson the hard way.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:50 amEven though I don't think it's what KD wants, I don't think Brooklyn is going to give him up for any reasonable offer. Like, I think they wouldn't give us KD for anything less than Booker and all our picks. At this point, I think I'm fine moving on from KD. I just think it takes us out of the running for so many more attainable options. I'd love KD, just don't think he's realistically attainable.
My guess is that BKN will get other sexy offers for KD and won't want to accept less than our very best offer. And I don't think sitting around holding our breath all year and ignoring all the other good deals on the table is wise. We could grab a Collins or Bogdanovic or Gordon or some other guy who can genuinely help push us over the top; we should do it.