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2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:07 pm
by Split T
Let’s get it started….anyone watch the 2 Wembanyama vs Scoot games this week?

Is Wemby the biggest prospect ever? And I don’t mean actual size, although he is massive, look at him next to Rudy, it’s crazy.



Is he a more hyped prospect than LeBron? He’s the only comparable one in my lifetime. I think LeBron still might beat him out, but there’s another year to go.

How crazy is the tanking going to be this year?

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:10 pm
by Split T
I watched part of the game today and it’s pretty crazy how fluid of an athlete Wemby is at his size. I’m not completely sold on him, but man I’m excited for his career. He’s gonna be a lot of fun.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:26 pm
by In2ition
The only thing that can stop him is health, imo. As he matures, he will get stronger and stronger, as he looks like he can gain that muscle. He's already a taller, longer Gobert on defense and Durant on offense. He shoots at a high rate, even from distance, with arc, on the move, in turnarounds, and with distance. He catches everything. He makes moves off the dribble and finishes through contact. He has great feel for the game, knows how and when to pass and where to get guys the ball. He also plays with poise. He wasn't the reason that they lost these 2 games either. He was undoubtedly the best player on the floor in both.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:35 pm
by Split T
I wish I caught the game when Scoot played, he got hurt today. I’ve been of the opinion that if I landed the #1 pick, I’d trade back to 2 and get a massive haul to go from Wemby to Scoot. Imagine if OKC lands at 2, what would they offer up to get Wemby?

I have concerns about his longevity and ability to hold up to nba play. I’m worried he’ll be hurt a lot and have a short, albeit spectacular career. Think Yao Ming…although of course a much better player, but Yao from a health and longevity standpoint. Guys his size just don’t hold up. Especially ones who play like he does. He looks so smooth moving around on the court though.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:03 pm
by In2ition
Split T wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:35 pm
I wish I caught the game when Scoot played, he got hurt today. I’ve been of the opinion that if I landed the #1 pick, I’d trade back to 2 and get a massive haul to go from Wemby to Scoot. Imagine if OKC lands at 2, what would they offer up to get Wemby?

I have concerns about his longevity and ability to hold up to nba play. I’m worried he’ll be hurt a lot and have a short, albeit spectacular career. Think Yao Ming…although of course a much better player, but Yao from a health and longevity standpoint. Guys his size just don’t hold up. Especially ones who play like he does. He looks so smooth moving around on the court though.
You have legitimate concerns. Who knows exactly what the future holds?

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:04 pm
by Shabazz
Hopefully we can take advantage of the tanking to pick up some productive players from the teams participating in the tankathon.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:28 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
In terms of pre-draft hype, I think he's on par with KD. The physical comparisons help in that regard as well.

I don't know if we'll ever see a kid like LeBron again. He had NBA ready skills with the body to match on opening night. Zion was pretty close to that but he hasn't ever shown the commitment to his body the way LeBron always has.

I'm a little worried that Wemby will become too tall because there is a physiological breaking point where other ailments can develop that are typically unrelated to being an athlete.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:32 pm
by AmareIsGod
Show me a 7ft3+ NBA player that had a long and productive career without injury and I'll show you my 9" peep. They don't hold up. He's amazing, unlike anything I've seen at that height. I just know how this plays out, especially the way he plays.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:43 pm
by specialsauce
Please don’t show us your peep

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:43 pm
by JeremyG
Yeah, these teams are likely going to look very foolish for tanking for a 14% chance of landing a guy who may only play a small number of games in the league at full health. Not worth the risk and way too much hype imo. But hey if we can grab some good players off of these teams I'm all for it.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:28 pm
by TOO
AmareIsGod wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:32 pm
Show me a 7ft3+ NBA player that had a long and productive career without injury and I'll show you my 9" peep. They don't hold up. He's amazing, unlike anything I've seen at that height. I just know how this plays out, especially the way he plays.
Congrats on the marshmallow treat bud.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:00 am
by Mori Chu
He looks really good. But I tend to agree with the skepticism, I think he's likely to have injuries due to being just too tall. Guys over about 7'1" always have awful health problems. If I had the #1 pick, would I draft the kid? Yeah, of course, you have to. But I'd be terrified.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:27 am
by Split T
I’d trade the pick to OKC for a massive haul.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:41 am
by LazarusLong
Wembanyama reminds me of Ralph Sampson, except with a touch behind the arc.

It's a crapshoot with very tall players.
Abdul-Jabbar had a very long career -- he kept in shape with martial arts and yoga.
Shaq had a very long career, while playing sometimes upwards of 350 lbs.
Ming's health issues stemmed from overuse, playing upwards of 120 games in the NBA and then with the Chinese team.
Sampson was never the same after a horrific fall in Boston that injured his back.
Porziņģis has been injury plagued, and somewhat a shadow of his early days in the league.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:02 am
by TOO
I too think I'd take Scoot, might even take him first.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:28 am
by JeremyG
Kareem and Shaq had long careers but neither one was 7’3”. And Wembanyama could still end up at 7’4”.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:51 pm
by Superbone
There's always a first. Human genetics improves gradually year after year.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:38 pm
by Split T
So what’s the prospect rankings from this century?

I think I’ve got it..

1. LeBron
2. Wembanyama
3. Zion
4. KD/Oden
6. AD

Not sure there’s another clear no doubt top guy. I’d put Luka up there because for a good chunk of people he was as can’t miss as they come, but there was still a decent amount that had serious questions…and clearly he didn’t even go top 2. Everyone else here did. Wiggins was way high as a high schooler, but had faded by the draft. He still went 1, but Embiid was seen as the better prospect, just injuries kept him going 1st. KAT was very high, but had competition at times from Okafor, KP, and D-Lo. Ant went 1, but his stock fell during his college year as well.

Other top picks were Wall, Kyrie, Rose, Griffin, Simmons, Cade. Forgot about Yao who was a no-doubt 1st pick, but was that completely basketball related? I don’t exactly remember him being seen as a league changer, but that was a long time ago.

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:39 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Some of you guys are crazy. Never pass on the guy who does things you've never seen before. It's always worth the risk.

What's the worst that could happen, you'd have to pick in the lottery again?

Re: 2023 NBA Draft

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:42 pm
by Shabazz
People saying they’d pick Scoot are overthinking this.