Game Day: Lakers (5-10) @ Suns (10-6), Tues 11/22/22

[Vladimir_Taltos]

Good minutes from our 2-way guys tonight. Duane Washington quietly saved us in the 4th and if Ish can play like this on a semi regular basis, I think we’ll have seen the last of Dario in the rotation.

Yep, both DWJ and Ish have shown more potential as rotation pieces than both Shamet and Dario have this season.

Shamet, Dario and Jae are just 30 million of dead money at this point. Really hope we can capitalize on the right deal for these guy because the west looks crazy open right now.

I think that package being moved for an undesirable contract(though still a good player) might be our best bet to improve this years team. I’m thinking Tobias Harris or Gordon Hayward.

Need for a creator at backup PG is so painful its obvious...we need an upgrade here...

[Split T]

A player like Hayward would fill that need.

[Flagrant Fowl]

I've been critical of Ayton and absolutely think he needs to force the issue more on offense, and play with more force in general. BUT, Cam Payne is not a player who he'll ever thrive next to. Payne is looking to score first, isn't a great PnR or post-entry passer, and, most importantly, doesn't have that PG brain that says "this guy hasn't touched the ball for a while, let me get him a few looks to keep him engaged." Ayton looks much better with Book initiating.

I hope Chris Paul received a gift from Ayton after signing his max contract.

Because his numbers went down after Chris Paul got here?

Ah, right, that massive 38 game sample size. Put that one up there next to his career high three point percentage on 3 shots made.

Anyone who thinks Ayton is a lesser player with Chris Paul on the court is a fucking moron. Sorry, not sorry.

[TOO]

So much for the conspiracy theory that DA is just waiting for January 15th when he knows he's out of here...

Doesnt mean James Jones isnt counting the days til he can trade him for a back up wing who can shoot a bit.

[Vladimir_Taltos]

Good minutes from our 2-way guys tonight. Duane Washington quietly saved us in the 4th and if Ish can play like this on a semi regular basis, I think we’ll have seen the last of Dario in the rotation.

Yep, both DWJ and Ish have shown more potential as rotation pieces than both Shamet and Dario have this season.

Shamet, Dario and Jae are just 30 million of dead money at this point. Really hope we can capitalize on the right deal for these guy because the west looks crazy open right now.

I think that package being moved for an undesirable contract(though still a good player) might be our best bet to improve this years team. I’m thinking Tobias Harris or Gordon Hayward.

Need for a creator at backup PG is so painful its obvious...we need an upgrade here...

Um, he's listed as a SF/PF...so?

[SunsRIt]

I've been critical of Ayton and absolutely think he needs to force the issue more on offense, and play with more force in general. BUT, Cam Payne is not a player who he'll ever thrive next to. Payne is looking to score first, isn't a great PnR or post-entry passer, and, most importantly, doesn't have that PG brain that says "this guy hasn't touched the ball for a while, let me get him a few looks to keep him engaged." Ayton looks much better with Book initiating.

I hope Chris Paul received a gift from Ayton after signing his max contract.

Because his numbers went down after Chris Paul got here?

Ah, right, that massive 38 game sample size. Put that one up there next to his career high three point percentage on 3 shots made.

Anyone who thinks Ayton is a lesser player with Chris Paul on the court is a fucking moron. Sorry, not sorry.

His numbers all went down after Chris Paul got here. Just sayin.

And stop being an asshole.

[Flagrant Fowl]

I've been critical of Ayton and absolutely think he needs to force the issue more on offense, and play with more force in general. BUT, Cam Payne is not a player who he'll ever thrive next to. Payne is looking to score first, isn't a great PnR or post-entry passer, and, most importantly, doesn't have that PG brain that says "this guy hasn't touched the ball for a while, let me get him a few looks to keep him engaged." Ayton looks much better with Book initiating.

I hope Chris Paul received a gift from Ayton after signing his max contract.

Because his numbers went down after Chris Paul got here?

Ah, right, that massive 38 game sample size. Put that one up there next to his career high three point percentage on 3 shots made.

Anyone who thinks Ayton is a lesser player with Chris Paul on the court is a fucking moron. Sorry, not sorry.

His numbers all went down after Chris Paul got here. Just sayin.

And stop being an asshole.

Wow. He averages less than one basket a game fewer since Paul joined the Suns. BFD. Now look at the advanced statistics.

Deandre Ayton has not been a better player without Chris Paul.

[Split T]

Good minutes from our 2-way guys tonight. Duane Washington quietly saved us in the 4th and if Ish can play like this on a semi regular basis, I think we’ll have seen the last of Dario in the rotation.

Yep, both DWJ and Ish have shown more potential as rotation pieces than both Shamet and Dario have this season.

Shamet, Dario and Jae are just 30 million of dead money at this point. Really hope we can capitalize on the right deal for these guy because the west looks crazy open right now.

I think that package being moved for an undesirable contract(though still a good player) might be our best bet to improve this years team. I’m thinking Tobias Harris or Gordon Hayward.

Need for a creator at backup PG is so painful its obvious...we need an upgrade here...

Um, he's listed as a SF/PF...so?

Your creator doesn’t need to be a pg

[JeremyG]

So much for the conspiracy theory that DA is just waiting for January 15th when he knows he's out of here...

Doesnt mean James Jones isnt counting the days til he can trade him for a back up wing who can shoot a bit.

Oh man I would bet so much money on this. There is no chance that Jones trades Ayton before the 2023 trade deadline.

(And the “for a backup wing” part was a joke right?)

[JeremyG]

I hope Chris Paul received a gift from Ayton after signing his max contract.

Because his numbers went down after Chris Paul got here?

Ah, right, that massive 38 game sample size. Put that one up there next to his career high three point percentage on 3 shots made.

Anyone who thinks Ayton is a lesser player with Chris Paul on the court is a fucking moron. Sorry, not sorry.

His numbers all went down after Chris Paul got here. Just sayin.

And stop being an asshole.

Wow. He averages less than one basket a game fewer since Paul joined the Suns. BFD. Now look at the advanced statistics.

Deandre Ayton has not been a better player without Chris Paul.

Now you’re just making stuff up. Nobody said he’s a better player without him. But to say that CP3 got him his contract is ridiculous.

[Flagrant Fowl]

Because his numbers went down after Chris Paul got here?

Ah, right, that massive 38 game sample size. Put that one up there next to his career high three point percentage on 3 shots made.

Anyone who thinks Ayton is a lesser player with Chris Paul on the court is a fucking moron. Sorry, not sorry.

His numbers all went down after Chris Paul got here. Just sayin.

And stop being an asshole.

Wow. He averages less than one basket a game fewer since Paul joined the Suns. BFD. Now look at the advanced statistics.

Deandre Ayton has not been a better player without Chris Paul.

Now you’re just making stuff up. Nobody said he’s a better player without him. But to say that CP3 got him his contract is ridiculous.

Without Chris Paul, Ayton's agent probably wouldn't have been able to strong arm one team into making him a max offer.

[TOO]

So much for the conspiracy theory that DA is just waiting for January 15th when he knows he's out of here...

Doesnt mean James Jones isnt counting the days til he can trade him for a back up wing who can shoot a bit.

Oh man I would bet so much money on this. There is no chance that Jones trades Ayton before the 2023 trade deadline.

(And the “for a backup wing” part was a joke right?)

It was more of I have no faith in James Jones to get a good return for him when the trade eventually comes to pass.

[carey]

On the real, how many Cs out there could put up 14.5 & 8.5 on this team?

[Split T]

Jalen Smith could get that…so would Landale or Biyombo if we started them.

[TOO]

On the real, how many Cs out there could put up 14.5 & 8.5 on this team?

Probably quite a few, there are a lot guys who finish in the paint better than Ayton and would convert more bunnies than Ayton does.

[carey]

Jalen Smith could get that…so would Landale or Biyombo if we started them.

Yeah, I'm real depressed about paying Ayton. Sorry to Jeremy & others on the board. I think it was a mistake.

[virtual9mm]

Jalen Smith could get that…so would Landale or Biyombo if we started them.

Yeah, I'm real depressed about paying Ayton. Sorry to Jeremy & others on the board. I think it was a mistake.

If he finishes out the season this way, I will also be disappointed. But I suspect that he'll hit the jets at some point, been the pattern his entire career.

[Superbone]

Jalen Smith could get that…so would Landale or Biyombo if we started them.

Yeah, I'm real depressed about paying Ayton. Sorry to Jeremy & others on the board. I think it was a mistake.

If he finishes out the season this way, I will also be disappointed. But I suspect that he'll hit the jets at some point, been the pattern his entire career.

We can only hope. Maybe he’s waiting until it really matters.

[Flagrant Fowl]

Yeah, the 2025-26 season.

[Aztec Sunsfan]

We can only hope. Maybe he’s waiting until it really matters.

"Next contract" season?